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 should Gambia and Senegal unite???
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  23:16:46  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
I believe if many individuals did the same as you that would go a long way to helping the Gambia. Perhaps the head teacher would have knowledge of pupils that may need to drop out of school and could continue if they had a sponsor.....


What I did was take photos of children and gave them my address...the ones that bothered to write to me I sent the photo to and then from that I have sponsored 2 of them. They selected themselves by being proactive and having initiative.I am involved in their lives. I visit their families and talk to their fathers and give the money directly to the father twice a year.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  23:37:53  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
May be we should all atleast sponsor some one outside of our families. It will help. US$100.00 will help pay for school fees for the year for one child and in public schools at least will pay for 2.

Thanks Gambiadev and all out there investing in eduaction. It is the only way out.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2006 :  00:21:46  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

My plans are to have a scholarship fund. I have already started my own and i currently have one student i am sponsoring at Kotu Senior secondary shool. I do not know him and have never met or seen him. It is managed by his principal.

I only read about his problem in the point newspaper. Most people not will question my trustwothiness. You have to understand that not everyone agrees on the same thing. My problem is having someone in the Gambia who can administer this. The easiest way is to provide scholarship to the student with the most outstanding results. But then there might be others who did not do as well because of lack of opportunities like having a candle to study, bus fare to school, school fees delays or even an exercise book.

I am the crusade I am on the crusade and hope that i make more money to help more people. I have dedicated myself to the cause and sometimes it is good to avoid a crowd that will only argue and do nothing.




you something i have noticed about Gambians that is really disturbing, how someone can lie and steal, but nothing will come out of it because you either know their family or you simply let it go cause you feel like you can't do anything about it. i can't tell you how much money my mother has lost due to people she KNEW that betrayed her. and then these trifling people act like nothing happened. my mother doesn't want me to even but Gambia and business in the same sentence because she fears i would one day waste my life in Gambia trying to help my country and just end up being cheated.
another thing my anuty pointed out, the reason why Gambian owned businesses find it so hard to suceed in GAMBIA is because people who know you expect you to let them borrow money or stuff from your store. of course, they wouldn't ask the same from someone from another country. it makes me so angry. my anuty tried to sell fabric over here, she had gotten the fabric from her friend from Gambia who was trying to help her earn a living here, she sold 3 of them this past August to three different people. one was a cousin of her husbands. one was a close friend, and the other was the close friend's friend. the cousin gave her the run, until early febuary. the close friend's friend gave the friend money to give to my aunty but, my aunty's close friend, used the money for herself and then did not have money to pay for her purchase. she just got her money from her a few days ago.
things like that are ridiculos and is too often. it seems like its taboo to let money get between you and people you know, but what if people take advantage of you?
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2006 :  00:32:27  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
I have suffered that many times. I have helped people set up business and they ended not paying up. I help guarantee loans at banks for people and i end up paying.

Now i have decided to not be in business but atleast invest in education. Sponsor students.PERIOD. tHAT WAY I WILL NOT BE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING PAID BACK.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”

Edited by - kondorong on 09 Mar 2006 01:38:48
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2006 :  01:12:31  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
did they avoid you after that or did they not have enough shame to even do that. i wonder how these people justify their actions.
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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2006 :  02:26:52  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Hi Kondorong:

You have some noble ideas , and you seem to be knowledgeable in Gambian history also .
I tend to agree that Gambian history may not be well taught , but probably partly because Gambian history is not well written about.There are not many authors on Gambian history , are there ?
My suggestion is that you consider authoring a book on the history of the Gambia that could help educate our kids on Gamian history.
Gambia needs indigenous writers whose works can be taught in our schools.
I am not well read in history but I am sure there might be readers on this forum who might collaborate with you in that effort.
As with uniting Senegal and Gambia , I still think it is possible. It can start with simple steps like economic integration. I mean free movement of people and goods. This requires the political will , though.
Thanks.
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2006 :  04:41:30  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kayjatta

Hi Kondorong:

You have some noble ideas , and you seem to be knowledgeable in Gambian history also .
I tend to agree that Gambian history may not be well taught , but probably partly because Gambian history is not well written about.There are not many authors on Gambian history , are there ?
My suggestion is that you consider authoring a book on the history of the Gambia that could help educate our kids on Gamian history.
Gambia needs indigenous writers whose works can be taught in our schools.
I am not well read in history but I am sure there might be readers on this forum who might collaborate with you in that effort.
As with uniting Senegal and Gambia , I still think it is possible. It can start with simple steps like economic integration. I mean free movement of people and goods. This requires the political will , though.
Thanks.




i second that motion, actually, i think you and Janyanfara should collaborate.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2006 :  07:55:57  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Kondorong,

I think you are very wise to concentrate on education as that is the future of the country. Also it is helping people to help themselves in the long term rather than a short term fix.

I think if you are giving money in the Gambia, even as a business venture, you have to give it freely with no expectation of being repaid...because this is sadly so often the reality.

My accountant advised me only to invest abroad (any country) what I could afford to loose.......sensible advice!

Just think what a difference would be made if every Gambian living abroad sponsored a childs education in Gambia......... Can you afford it???? say £10 a month......one less CD or DVD, one less lunch out.......a couple less drinks in the bar......and you make a REAL difference.........

Since I have been to Gambia I still treat myself..... BUT I am aware of what that money would do in Gambia and by being a LITTLE more frugal I am saving the money I use to help.
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njucks

Gambia
1131 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2006 :  12:08:11  Show Profile Send njucks a Private Message
Kondorong i agree totally with you , education is the only way out, perhaps lack of it is also the only way into poverty and its associated problems.

i think the way you are thinking illustrates a genuine feeling of goodwill by many gambians/non-gambians to contribute to the education system back home. there seems to be many efforts in this direction and many individual examples you, gambiabev etc since the goal is the same perhaps it might be a good idea to work together through this bantaba. i know there are many associations with a common idea like GESO (bantaba-education),AGECS etc. just a warning getting gambians to work together itself is a serious task

regarding EF Small i can't remember the last time i read about him, perhaps primary school, this is very unfortunate.reading your text i did a simple google search and found this

http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?A2=ind0506&L=gambia-l&H=1&O=D&F=P&S=&P=10825

there is mention of a paper called The Gambia Outlook. is this the one you were talking about

i'm sure there is alot people like you can teach us about pre-independence gambia. maybe there should be a new thread on the bantaba on Gambian History. what ever you do about education, if a collective effort is required you can count me in.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2006 :  18:59:25  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
This is the Francis Edward small, my hero who fought for everyone. The INTELLIGENTIA newspaper predated the OUTLOOK. i have seen copies of the outlook at the Archives and the same fate that happened to the Intelligentia will hapen to this paper also. We badly need someone qualified to do restorative work at the National Records office. The only person whowas doing has now resigned a very good friend of mine.

I particiapted in building those iron shelves at the archives and participated in the process leading to a more modern National records system in the Gambia and we had help from the Commonwealth Secretariat. I believe the greatest authority on Gambian History is Steven Bahoum who was the Chief Archivist but has since retired some ten years ago. I hope he is in good shape. We need people like him to be utilised rather than kept at home with all his wealth of knowledge.

As for abook on Gambian history i have plans but right now committed overseas. I must admit i am a youg man in his 30s and humbled by your comments but i think i am only sitting under the shadow of intellectual giants who are yet to be discovered partly because they do not have the opportunity.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”

Edited by - kondorong on 09 Mar 2006 19:02:43
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