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Dalton1
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 Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 19:18:58
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boy, stop acting a fool of people. When it is time for me to do that, you will not direct me. those that do must have proved themselves honest openly or even though critics but must not be blinded by some unknown force.
here is good advice for you in a brotherly tone.
-see, ok to criticize people, but do it honestly, wisely and constructively.
-as well, ask first then make a conclusion, or verify. because you know i am here.
-purify yourself from the heart diease. see many a times, it can be very detrimental.
-don't underate people.
-don't take liberty to underate or bring down or demoralise someone, just because of some intixication from a heart disease.
- i want you to openly tell us your name, here, so that you can give pa nderry and sankareh a chance to criticise in retaliation of your true self.
until then, have a refreshing moment. i hope you learnt something from it, and not seeing your self as 'ever right' while infected and rottent from head to toe.
if this is of good advice to you, please heed, and stop wasting my time. otherwise, cook the beans, and swallow all to yourself. and no one want to share it with you. or at least i don't. |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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mansasulu
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Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 19:29:44
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No wonder my statements are sweeping in nature, because you (yourself, pa nderry, and sankareh) are all birds of the same feathers. If you want to continue to be their puppet, or lackey you are free to cotinue to do so. Rest assured you will sink with them. You have no opinion in Sankareh concocting a doctored photograph, but are interested in him retaliating to anyone who attempts to bring him to task.
You are really young and probably have a great future ahead of you. My advice to you is not to blindly follow the sensational styles of people who lack an aota of intellectual honesty and decency. Good luck ! |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 19:33:58
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| Mansasulu and Dalton1 could you both calm down, its much ado abt nothing. After all its a picture that has been published elsewhere, and we can agree or disagree wit the write-up that accompanied the picture, but atleast wit respect. NO matter whose cow is gored, valuable time must not be spent on tirades or barrages of unpleasant words. The debate could be done amicably for the truth to be established. No hard feelings at the end of the day i think we both want a better Gambia for all Gambians and friends of The Gambia. Wa Salaam. |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 19:47:01
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quote:
Originally posted by mansasulu
No wonder my statements are sweeping in nature, because you (yourself, pa nderry, and sankareh) are all birds of the same feathers. If you want to continue to be their puppet, or lackey you are free to cotinue to do so. Rest assured you will sink with them. You have no opinion in Sankareh concocting a doctored photograph, but are interested in him retaliating to anyone who attempts to bring him to task.
You are really young and probably have a great future ahead of you. My advice to you is not to blindly follow the sensational styles of people who lack an aota of intellectual honesty and decency. Good luck !
enjoy your dirty urine advice. you are now scattered to pieces. go pick up your self, and start building it up.
they operate independent, send them an advice, and see what they say.
Boy, whatever you call yourself. sulu means wolf, right?
Go look for your preys. i am not and will never be your pray. because if you try, you must fight it to the end.
you started the war, you can as well end it. i am only defending the truth, and my integritty.
until, i wish you mental recovery soon.
 
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Dalton1
3485 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 19:53:22
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mawdo madi,
i said no comment about the pic, only my reply to Momodou. my pertake on this debate has nothing to do with that pic.
My debate is focussed on an attack on me, which i openly quoted from him in the start of rejoin to this topic.
but as well those that constantly take liberty in certain forums to attack integritty, must as well be given justice. justice for good, and justice for justice.
othersie, thanks for your advice. he started on me, i was wondering if you caught that? he can go to hell, he is caught lying period.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 19:53:32
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| Out of respect to Madiba, I will lower my guard and try not to repond on this topic again. May I say though that my investigations show that there at least 30 tickets available for the game in Montreal. Sadly Gainako failed to report that. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
Edited by - mansasulu on 27 Jun 2007 19:55:39 |
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Dalton1
3485 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 20:03:48
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Good!
Out of respect for all decent contributors ever here and forum admins, i will contunually defend the truth, as long as it takes. I will do my best to be humble with the humble, nice with the nice, debate with those that call for it, but will never fear to let anyone take it from me- freedom and free speech.
In ending the debate, i recap from the old teacher, thus:
"Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery."
Malcolm X, Malcolm X Speaks, 1965
"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it. " Malcolm. |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 22:06:23
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I am grateful to you both (Dalton1 and Mansasulu) for dropping the issue and moving on in the name of The Gambia. Expecting more positive postings here on the way Forward for The Gambia.
Thanks Gentlemen. |
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Dalton1
3485 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 22:30:33
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nice ending always. It is one of those days, i take good teachings from Malcolm.
"We are nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us."
Malcolm X
ah jaramah, keep up the spirit!
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 22:34:41
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Originally posted by MADIBA
. The Malian President was portrayed in a comical manner as adulterous(keeping a mistress).
That is nothing compared to what Mandela went through in South Africa as president. I just read that the February 1998 issue of the Hustler(South African Magazine) rudely featured Mandela as " ...hole of the Month"The magazine showed one of his secretaries posing nude with very wild captions i dont want to post here out of respect. When the Deputy Interior Minister Lindiwe Sisulu wanted to ban the paper, Mandela responded that he preferred the magazine use "..its own sense of morality and values..."
Mandela suprised his Cabinet Secretary Jakes Gerwel by asking: "Have you seen this month's Hustler?"
I am reminded time and again that Africa has only one mandela. Mali is not a model democracy for Africa. South Africa is. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jun 2007 : 00:35:54
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Originally posted by kondorong
Mali is not a model democracy for Africa. South Africa is.
Thats your opinion. As far as our sub-region is concerned and the rest of Africa, the transition of power from Konare to Amadou Toumani Toure has all the hallmarks of an emerging democratic country.Given the repressive dictatorship Mali has gone thru Gen.Moussa Traore for donkey yrs.
Infact democracy started almost the same time in Mali as in South Africa. South Africa was coming out of the brutal apartheid system(1994) as Moussa Traore(1991) was toppled as Mali Head of State. Col.Amadou Toumani Toure ruled for i think two yrs den handed over to Alpha Oumar Konare. Konare after his mandate expired never over-stayed and handed over to cilivian gov't of Amadou Toumani Toure who is presently serving his second term after being returned earlier this yr. In South Africa a similar thing happened,Mandela served and handed over to Mbeki who if am not mistaken is also serving his second term and seeking a third. So how is South Africa's baby democracy more democratic than its age-mate or big brother Mali in terms of demcracy?
These links may help you: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/country_profiles/1071886.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/country_profiles/1021454.stm#facts |
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Edited by - MADIBA on 28 Jun 2007 01:33:26 |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jun 2007 : 02:24:53
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quote:
Originally posted by MADIBA
Thats your opinion. As far as our sub-region is concerned and the rest of Africa, the transition of power from Konare to Amadou Toumani Toure has all the hallmarks of an emerging democratic country.Given the repressive dictatorship Mali has gone thru Gen.Moussa Traore for donkey yrs.......
Countries that have gone through militray rule are not good examples of democracy. However countries that have never, can stand tall that they respected rule of law and government by the people. Senegal is in the category of those countries which can be called examples of democracy. The rest are just a bunch of hit and miss quagmires. |
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jambo
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Posted - 28 Jun 2007 : 10:19:23
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how did this topic end up on about football tickets.
regards the pictures of the president I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY EXIST, it is just an excuse to say something bad about the president either put up or shut up. USA, Candaa and UK you can print pictures o t your hearts content, they will receive slapped writs end of story. IF YOU HAVE A DECENT PRESIDENT THEY WILL GET AWAY, EXAMPLE BILLCLINTON, hello how much more of an example do you want. SO HE IS NOT BEING FAITHFUL TO HIS WIFE, what is important is he being faithful to his voters, countryfolk. THAT IS THE QUESTION PEOPLE SHOULD DEAL WITH. NOT FOOTBALL TICKETS, WHICH I BELIEVE HE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH. AND CERTAINLY NOT THIS PICTURE.
LOOK AT OTHER THINGS. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jun 2007 : 10:21:26
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Originally posted by kondorong
Countries that have gone through militray rule are not good examples of democracy. However countries that have never, can stand tall that they respected rule of law and government by the people. Senegal is in the category of those countries which can be called examples of democracy. The rest are just a bunch of hit and miss quagmires.
Konds again, you are avoiding the issue. I have never said Senegal is not a democracy. My problem is ur choice of South Africa as a model democracy and refusing Mali the same status. Is like saying a guy who took a distance or open university progrm and earns a degree is not a graduate because he never went thru a conventional university.
Com'on My Serahuleh. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 28 Jun 2007 : 17:28:21
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I am not avoiding anything. You talked about examples of democracy. I was giving you the real and not pseudo models of democracy in Africa of which Senegal is a memeber with South Africa. Mali is not and cannot be a model on the grounds that it had a military coup. There is a difference between an emerging democracy and a model democracy.
Gambia used to be a model pre 1994 but is not anymore. |
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