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JUSTICE SAM
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 Posted - 11 Feb 2006 : 12:30:01
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Greed is a major problem in African politics. Gambians are today witnessing the real politics of "Jangfa" with baseless excuses to play with the gallery. The truth shall prevail!!!
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somita
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Feb 2006 : 13:48:43
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| Its makes me wonder if these so call people ever think about the ordinary people they are porporting to represent. The truth shall set up all free, the contrary will enslave us all. |
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PHODALI
USA
44 Posts |
Posted - 11 Feb 2006 : 14:38:07
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Stop the hypocrisy and face the reality. How can people without a party lead a coalition? I have seen political parties who does not have structures in any part of the country, and yet they want to lead a formidable coalition.
Any where in the world its only the strongest party that leads a coalition. But here in The Gambia its the other way round due to tribakism, hatred and hypocrisy.
Lets see now whether Nadd will be able to pool out even 3% of the votes.
Thanks Hamat for joining Udp.
Longlive UDP/NRP coalition. |
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Redeemer
United Kingdom
31 Posts |
Posted - 11 Feb 2006 : 15:31:17
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| phodali:why cant short sighted people like you reason well before vomiting your sick opinions in this forum.Why cant you people just for a second extend your reasoning beyond Darboe and wake up to the threat that we are facing in our country.It was due to the same lack of forsight and wishdom that saw the demise of sir Dawda and his ppp and am afraid the same ugly menance is surfacing in Gambian politics again.What a honey moon for pres. Jammemeh he must be wining and dining with the top echeleon of APRC just because of greedy and power hungry Darboe.I join this forum to debate issues that will move our country forward but I never thought for once that this forum is infested with short sighted and selfish people like you.Phodali you and your comrades are a shame to the young breed of Gambians as your political rhetoric belongs to 70s.It is time you start writing sensible articles that the readership would benefit reading or dissappear as Jammeh anothet folk claim today to be doing after my encounter with him. |
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maple
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Feb 2006 : 21:14:55
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| I have beeen dormant for a while with regards to postings on the forum. Maybe am lost for words to describe my frustration with the disintegration of NADD. I have long been waiting for the day that Gambian politian will mature, and try to put personal differences for the salvation of The Gambia from the APRC regime. Darboe a man I cherished, turelly let me down for backing out of NADD. Let our sentiment not drive us over but appraoch the whole issue with logic. Lets be logical and put together ideas for the salvation of mother Gambia. Is Darboe leaving NADD the end of the road. According the man himself his deputy Yaya jallow and kemeseng jammeh are still NADD executive and my question is on what capacity. is this telling us UDP is not wholely behind the actions of Darboe of of what use can that be to NADD. |
"Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear" Paulo Coelho. |
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Ebra
Gambia
268 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2006 : 08:16:56
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Time for me to voice my feelings. From my own perspective point of view, I agree with Darboe's resignation from NADD. My reasons are based on the playing ground of nomination of flagbearer of NADD,which was not fair based on the nomination process. The executives have to conduct primaries for the contenders. Contenders need to go to the public and deliver their agendas to the electorates, and they decide who they want to be their flagbearer. Any of them who happens to lead becomes the flagbearer. This was what happen here in USA, when the Democrat contenders face the nation and talk about their programmes and the electorates decide. This is how John Kerry becomes Democrats' candidate. It is sad to see mature people failing to hit the nail on the head.
There were many fightings against Darboe, some saying tribalist, opportunist, liar and all sort of names. That is not a mature debate. We should be able to back ourselves with reasonable and undoubtly facts. If NADD had nominated Darboe to be the flagbearer, are we saying that NADD is a tribalist party, opportunist, lair, government back by PPP SAMPURSANS? That is something I don't understand.
The presidency been the highest post in a nation, has to be rule by intelligent, smart, goodleadership, educated, good moral, vocal, and would be there for the people. we fail to realize that the coming government shall be there for the development of the nation, and not just to unseat Yaya.
NADD have different political ideologies and the coalition can't simply work. Darboe's resigning from NADD and joining with Hamat shows the whole world that UDP is not "former PPP", or tribalist party. It would be very helpful for those saying UDP is tribalist party to search for the list of their executive commitee which comprises of all major tribes of Gambia. NRP and UDP are the largest opposition parties in the Gambia and their Joining will hopefully unseat Jammeh without (PPP, NDAM, PDOIS). The meeting of the UDP/NRP at Brikama revealed all the power struggle the failed politician OJ, Halifa, Waa (Niamina Dankunku's Adolf Mbarodi.... NDAM) were doing during the nomination process. We have seen tribalism been played , why did AMIE SALLAH and SAM SARR nominated Halifa when SEEDIA is there been the presidential candidate for PDOIS for decades likewise OJ who is also backed by his fellow Fula. Because of WAA, NADD will never succeed because he is like a grasshopper jumping from one party to another even during Jawara's time, him and his fellow Halifa plus OJ are all power hungry politicians who wanted to use Darboe, and Hamat to gain political favors. We will never accept that. Jammeh to remain power is better for Gambia than Halifa, OJ, or Waa
Long live NRP and UDP. |
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Redeemer
United Kingdom
31 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2006 : 10:00:33
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| Primaries you said so easily said than done Ebra.Well I want to tell you that your country of residence(U.s.A)political environment is different from that of the Gambia.United states of America is a well established democracy with all the funtionaries of democratic institutions in place and it is base on that coducive environment that both the republicans and the democrats are able to hold these primaries.Let me first of all ask you how long did it take the democrats to eventually unveil John Kerry as their candidate?In the case of The Gambia do we have the time on our side to conduct these primaries which will last for weeks if not months.Secondly on what basis will the contenders debate when Nadd are yet to come up with programmes on Agriculture, tourism, and above all spending and taxation plans.In that scenario we will withness politics of personal attacks and character assasination which will eventually bring divison in the alliance.Finally as stated above brother the democratic institutions are not yet in place to conduct these primaries.As somita stated how can you stop a determined APRC supporter from casting his vote to a wrong NADD candiadte in these primaries as Nadd does not have a proper registraion of its grassroot membership.Anyway I hope our democracy would mature so that we can conduct these primaries as it is the best way of selecting a flagbearer but as at now I beg to differ. |
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Amna
Gambia
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Posted - 12 Feb 2006 : 12:23:55
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Ebra,
If Lawyer Darbo the foremost constitutional lawyer in The Gambia cannot design an MOU that Yaya Jammeh can blow into pieces resulting in UDP, PDOIS and NRP losing their seats in the National Assembly, because they failed in the understanding that registering NADD with the IEC as a party or political association, would render them members in two parties, a constitutional NO NO, then again, the sme Darbo designed and signed on an MOU that he assured us would liberate us not only from Jammeh but future Jammeh wannabees only to now claim it is inadequate. How can we trust and count on this guy?
Hamat Bah was always a discotheque freak, something I have refrained from saying since the onset of NADD and I assure you Hamat will not poll 3% of the vote again. UDP is now going to find out its own strength and Darbo will be reduced to single digits without PPP and NCP backers.
The true fight in The Gambia will be the NADD [PPP-PDOIS-GPP-NDAM and former NCP-turned UDP like Kemeseng and Dembo by force], Pa Sallah Jeng of Banjul and Lai Conteh may also join NADD and the race for the President will pit APRC vs NADD.
Mark my words.
Peace |
Amna |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 03:56:36
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You people have to be politically matured.This is indeed sad for the Gambia as a whole.If the parties cannot see the sence for the suffering Gambian masses,then you who are at least previleged to be in Europe and America, should not be using foolish statements agaiinst each other.Everybody is tribalist.Tell me who is not?Who the hel will sit and see your tribe insulted?Even in the APRC, there is tribalism.Look at Yaya Jammeh, He sent Baba Jobe-his must trusted servant to 10years for alledged economic trimes but let free Ablie Kujabi,James Kujabi,ans former statescommander Jammeh for the same crimes.
Africa has always known lines('FARLE MBOKA' or BAADING FAASA')Every tribe does that not Mandinka,Fulla,Wollof,Sarahule,Jola Njago,Serer orany tribe 4 that matter.Who so every denies this fact is a dreamer.
The truth is with the economic situation in the Gambia today,every opposition have to see the plight of the poor voters not tribe because if hunger and hardship comes,it does not knock at one tribe's door.It knocks at all the tribes and parties includding the APRC,UDP,NRP,PDOIS,PPP,NDAM,NCP,and GPP.
Wake up fellow Gambians.Stop castigating each other's tribes and think about the Gambia.All of you who castigate other tribes,you are yourselves the worst tribalists one can ever find but you will deny it because you have no brains.Who will hate what you are?I am tribalist because I love what I am but what I should understand is I live with other tribes who also love who they are and I have to accept that but they too have to accept me in other to live along side eachother.
Good bless the Gambia.
Peace and Love.
Mankajang Janyanfara. |
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pams
Netherlands
17 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 10:51:12
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| **** you dabor and the udp and if hamat bah want joine you go with them and fouck you all..u.d.p-and n.r.p.. |
i love gambia |
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Ebra
Gambia
268 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 11:04:21
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This kind of comments are very irresponsible and inmature. There should not be any thing like F word. I personally is here, to contribute ways and means of the development of my mother land. Everybody in this forum can send even worst of ("**** you dabor and the udp and if hamat bah want joine you go with them and fouck you all..u.d.p-and n.r.p.."). We should atleast be nice to each other and stop saying foul word, because not only Gambians visit this site. An remember first impression is the lasting impression. We need investor in the The Gambia some might be using this site to evaluate the type of people he/she migt meet. Comments like the above are really unacceptable, lets mind our words and work for better Gambia.
Long Live mother Gambia |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 16:17:25
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Hi Pams my brother,
I wonder how old you really are?
Please without being rude or abusive,I want to remind you that all those people,U mentioned-Darboe, Udp Amat,Nrp, are all family men with wives and children.If they have the interest of the Gambia, they knew better.But what about the rest of the Nadd membership?What do you have to advise them?Do you know what had happened b4 you jump to carelessly insult those you thought were in the wrong 4 spliting up with Nadd.
How wold you feel if one say the same wit you parents?
I would ofcause not do such a thing 4 I went through the initiation process and was tought how to respond to elders so that when I b come an elder, young ones would give me the same respect.
I pray God guide you so that when you see d light, you may have the courage to appologise to these gentlemen who are facing detention,hardship and inhuman treatments from the Jammeh regime to salvage you and me.WQe are in Europe and America but the people in the Gambia KNEW what is happening.
All oposition parties whether united or not,have a comon goal.... REMOVING JAMMEH from power....
Whether they can do it unitedly or individually is what we are discussing here.We all thought we want a united 4ront against Jammeh 4 we thought the parties might fail if they try on an individual party ticket.
If they cannot see that light and think otherwise, then so be it.If at the end of the day....(1)NADD is able to unseat Jammeh, rejoice we shall all be...(2)On the other hand if UDP/NRP were able to unseat Him, then rejoice we shall all be....(3)Finally, if they all failled, then there they will realise their mistake for thy kno what the new law says :ONE vote margin victory,wil secure a government.
What can we do appart 4rom trying hard to let them see what we meant by a united front.Adding all UDP,NRP,PDOIS,PPP,NDAM,GPP ...all together,would be more than when d parties split.But the truth shall set us all free.
Peace and love
God bless D GAmbia and HER childreen-Amen!
Mankajang Janyanfara. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2006 : 00:46:43
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Quote of the day.
"Irresponsible Government is a recipe for stagnation" Kondorong |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2006 : 02:28:28
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Seen brilliance, intellectuals and sound brains through the postings read and the frustrations sadly expressed from different dimensions and temperaments. Unity under one umbrella is the only way forward and dismantle the APRC forever. How can it be achieved and is it too late to unite the opposition before Election 2006?
If only the parties concern are reviewing messages from the Bantaba, I recommend and appeal to them to listen to us and negotiate a new pact or MOU, strategies, reform a solid genuine coalition and voluntarily dissolving their parties to contest under one umbrella Elections 2006.
The stakes are really high and requires sacrifice and courage to make this decision for the masses pleaing for hope and emancipation from poverty and hardship; oh the poor farmers!. Apart from achieving this common understanding and new strategy (before Election 2006) I do not see any means of them claiming victory and APRC would consolidate themselves in power for decades.
Gambia loves you guys and dolls as you are the rising stars, power and hope to the people. |
Edited by - kobo on 12 May 2006 03:28:05 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2006 : 22:33:07
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Originally posted by PHODALI
Stop the hypocrisy and face the reality. How can people without a party lead a coalition?I have seen political parties who does not have structures in any part of the country, and yet they want to lead a formidable coalition.
Any where in the world its only the strongest party that leads a coalition. But here in The Gambia its the other way round due to tribakism, hatred and hypocrisy.
Lets see now whether Nadd will be able to pool out even 3% of the votes.
Thanks Hamat for joining Udp.
Longlive UDP/NRP coalition.
I do have certain reservations and need further clarifiactions on some postings as we attempt to review them as quoted and the order they follow. Starting with:-
PHODALI
Your advised is stop hypocrisy and face the reality?
What reality do you imply?
You mentioned how can people without a party lead a coalition?
Which people are without a party that leads a coalition?
Also you have seen political parties who does not have structures in any part of the country, and yet they want to lead a formidable coalition.
Which political parties are you do you refer? and Does a formidable coalition exist? If a formidable coalition existed why did the coalition disintegrates into two rival coalitions
Any where in the world its only the strongest party that leads a coalition.
Did leader(s) of the strongest party ever claimed that priviledge when he committed (i.e having appended their sigatures as agreement) to the Memorandum Of Understanding (MOU) that mutually binds them in their negotiations ? If so, did the leader maintained that denying him or them that priviledge is why the coalition disintegrates?
But here in The Gambia its the other way round due to tribakism, hatred and hypocrisy
Can you substantiate on these rubbish statements? |
Edited by - kobo on 13 May 2006 05:45:37 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2006 : 23:00:59
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Originally posted by Redeemer
phodali:why cant short sighted people like you reason well before vomiting your sick opinions in this forum.Why cant you people just for a second extend your reasoning beyond Darboe and wake up to the threat that we are facing in our country.It was due to the same lack of forsight and wishdom that saw the demise of sir Dawda and his ppp and am afraid the same ugly menance is surfacing in Gambian politics again.What a honey moon for pres. Jammemeh he must be wining and dining with the top echeleon of APRC just because of greedy and power hungry Darboe.I join this forum to debate issues that will move our country forward but I never thought for once that this forum is infested with short sighted and selfish people like you.Phodali you and your comrades are a shame to the young breed of Gambians as your political rhetoric belongs to 70s.It is time you start writing sensible articles that the readership would benefit reading or dissappear as Jammeh anothet folk claim today to be doing after my encounter with him.
REDEEMER
Interesting powerful comments especially:-
Why cant you people just for a second extend your reasoning beyond Darboe and wake up to the threat that we are facing in our country.
To be honest with you am one of those inspired by your statement as I have fallen on the trap of seeing Darboe as the only deterrent and stumbling block for further political inroads towards progress and development at this critical time thats calling for change of government, toppling of Jammeh and dismantling the APRC. I would now subscribe that the threats we are facing and the sytem should be considered to be more important to extend my foresight and wisdom. |
Edited by - kobo on 12 May 2006 23:35:43 |
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