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jammeh
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 Posted - 10 Feb 2006 : 13:43:24
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I will like some one to tell me in which country on this earth a coalition has bean lead by mainority party more over some one who is not even cornform by his party as leader just intream leader?the PPP has not officialy cornform O:J Halifa is not a party leader WAA Juwara is another saico,Assan Musa Camara i dont even know what to say about him.O.j Assan Musa Camara were all fighting Darbo when he deffeded Sherif Dibba after the July 30 take over,Halifa is making noice his party leader is quite, you know the English man say an emty Barrewl make more noice that is the case of Halifa and our so call dr in U.S.A with pa.ndre and delton are just like little children who dont know what this wold is all about.
Darbo did the right thing to get out of NADD if they can make it with out Darbo why worry? and why all the problem? it seams to me with out Darbo there will be non NADD.if not so keep on and let Darbo do his go on with is party, and we will see if NADD can get even have of what Darbo will get in the election.
long live Darbo and UDP.
Jammeh
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somita
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Feb 2006 : 15:00:13
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Jammeh's earlier Postings - Read it before making any response.
I refer to you all to D.A Jawo's Independant news papwer editorial -
http://allafrica.com/stories/200602100639.html
Jammeh Posings 1
Ousainou Darboe is the most obvious choice! for the 2006 election who can win Yaya,But for one thing i am sure if O.j is the choice of Nadd because of Lamin Waa Juwara´s persoinal reasons.then i will ask any member of my family ,friend´s and out entire village to vote for yaya because O.j is another jawara.
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But if NADD but another one who is not O.J,or Juwara then i will ask my people to vote for NADD.
Jammeh Posings 2
We are tired of so call Dr´s that are the cause of all this problem your so call Dr. Saine. Dr. Saine is a University professor, and the very brainchild of STGDP.has let the gambia during the time of hard ship in the gambia in those days no one hear about Dr.Saine,why can´t he go back home and do the sturgle with the NADD members and he may even be the best choice if he is clearn from the Jawara era.
He and Pa ndre are behind the problem we facing today including Wa-Juwara.we do not need another Jawara some one tell me the differenc beteween O.A.Jallow and the fomer presdent.
Stop talking and tell your so call Dr Saine to stop fooling himshelf and you people who listen to him. Let him or back if he has the intrested of Gambians not one man or tribe.
Jammeh Posings 3
He! my brother thanks for youe reply to my message about the 2006 election.You say i am a tribalistic, you might right but only if you know the diffrence between triblistic and triblaism. Any relaistic Gambian will agree with me that for Omara a jallow or Wa-Juwara to stand with yaya will be, as gievn more vots to yaya then he has eve had before and even the fomar Jawara will has never had.
Justic you have a lot of chances know a days why not used it wisely,meaning the ability to make good judgements based on a deep understanding and experince of life.If you know the History of PPP then i think you will agree that O.J is not a good choise for NADD,no Juwara is either, they all have history that you may not know.Juwara was a comminsoner in wested division, MId, and not bank division, you should try to find out what he did during thos time.
About O J i know himbeter then you and he even did something very good for that he has not done for you and he will never do it for you.But i know he is not good to be trusted in that office,reality is that the situation is not as who you see it but how you did not see it.
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the meaning of Tribalism is tthe state of existing as a tribe or a very strong feelings of loyalty to your tribe, and i do have avery strong feeling about my tribe and i hope you too have the same for your trible but it is not the essue here.i speak Fula,Wolof, and i have mroe feiends in this two tribes then my own tribe,i know many Gambian politicans then you do not only their names but many thing persionaly.If we want a better Gamiba, we have to deal with the reality and that is mejority.
if you can tell me one politican in the Gambia that has not bean save by Ousain Darbo for the past 30 years i will will be glad,but today they are all against him because of bean a Mandinka.and i will be glad if you or any one can tell me O.j´s eduactional back ground and Halifa compeair them with darbo.You know the english man said an emty barral make more noice then full one let us not fool our shelf about what is going on in NADD and face the truth,In NADD today it is Hamat bah or Darbo, that gambians know the rest are just Banjul and serrekunda and that is not enough to wine yaya.
i am sorry if i say anything that may hurt you i did not mean it all i want is do not jump and judge people because of what they write.you need to learn a lot in life still.take care
your
kebba
Jammeh Posings 4
Darboe's resignation from the NADD coalition has vindicated Pa Nderry and other skeptics who have maintained their "distrust" What is wrong with you people,can any of you tell me in which country on this earth you see a policical coalition lead by minority leather more over who is not even comform as his own paty leader just chair teacher.let us stop this sliy talk, you are saying Darbo is lair,selffish,unworthy of turst, who then will you turst Halifa who betray his own paty leader,or O.J who who is not even party leader,If Halifa is fair to the Gambian people he should not even nominate himself because Sidia is the party leader of PDOIS.In every country a coalition is lead by the bigest party in power or oposition.why should O.J lead NADD? can one tell me the resaion.when you have a bunch of selfish people like O J Halifa WAA-Juwara Assan Musa Camara,and yet you lfet all those people talking about Darbo this and this, the man did the right thing.
We go back to history O J has never bean voted by the peopl of Serekunda but by people from Cassamass,Halifa has bean standing with O J many times he never wins untile the take over of Yaya,with the help of N.C.P,(BLACKERBERRY Darbo can be your father no what to say about him.the man has save many Gambians from prision and some of them they dont even have the money to pay him.he defended O.j and many of them from YAYa including Seriff Dibba but they all are know going his back.We need a man like him not Halifa who start studies from different schools and cant finsh them. let himtell us were he jet his political sicence Degree, some of you ask about YAya´s dr and so on it is time to ask about Halifa we all know of Sidiya and Darbo what we dont know is Halifa it is time for him to tell us his educational back ground.Long live Darbo the Gambia need people him not so call noicy men like Halif or O.J.
jammeh
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Redeemer
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Feb 2006 : 15:29:53
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Jammeh:Sick and political out of touch people like you need to be eliminated from our countrys political scene.Darboe opting out of the coalition is a serious error of mis judgement and should not be justified by any right thinking Gambian.We are not arguing about Darboe, oj, Halifa as personalities but the consequences and chances of any single party making it in the 2006 polls.The reality is that none of the party can do it alone that is what led to the birth of Nadd and it is high time sick people like you get that in your thick heads.Myself use to be supporter of the udp since 1996 but the current political climate is not favourable to unseat the incumbent on singular platform and it is base on that sound reasoning that I felt only a united front could change the statuo quo.Stop defending Darboe and extend your reasoning beyond Darboe as Gambia is bigger than Darboe or any of the five exec memebers of NADD.
It is immatured for you to be comparing the academic credentials of the party leaders as I feel any one of the Nadd exec members would rule The Gambia better than yaya.You dont seem to be sure of the credentials of Halifa which in my opinion is not important.What is important is that this man has enlighten lots of Gambians voluntarily and has earn my respect for that.Let me tell you that there are people who dont hold the bsc, msc, or any higher academic credentials but when you put them in public office they execl better than graduates.Politics is about delivery and competency and not writing thesis.So it is time you stop your ridiculous statement arguing that Darboe and Seedia being the most educated should have been given the chance to lead the alliance.This senseless arguement that udp is the major party and therefore Darboe should lead is a total batrayal to the memo of understanding.Why did Darboe put that to his colleagues at the historic signing of the blue print at palm grove hotel.I use to respect ousainou Darboe a lot because he was the first public official during his days as the vice president of the bar association who went onto the bbc to denounce the coup when very few people could have the guts to do that.I owe that respect to him but his withdrawal from NADD is unwise and suicidal to our hopes of defeating Jammeh.My last word to you is that dont allow your personal love for Darboe to defeat your political conscience as Gambia is important than darboe. |
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jammeh
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Posted - 10 Feb 2006 : 18:08:53
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Redeemerthis are your words. Sick and political out of touch people like you need to be eliminated from our countrys political scenei do have respect for you even though i dont know you and not only you but every one else.I do not like insulting people i have stop that when i was 12 years if i can remember.But also depen how you were brought up at home,so i dont knwo you and i will not blame you too.All what i say is asking were on earth a political coalition is lead by a minority leader more over who is not even bean cornform by his own party? about educational background, yes me and every gambian have the right to ask the educational back ground of our leaders,as many of you are always talking about Yaya´s educational back ground and that is why he is accting or doing as he is doing to the country and the people.I therefor will be keen to know any feture leader´s educational back ground.
I do not support Darbo as you amy think i know him persionaly and i do know O.j persional more then i know Darbo,the reality is that every decomorcarce majority leads and every coalition in any country the lagerst party lead in power or opositon, why can´t you and other´s accept that and darbo leads?Please brothers let us know how to talk to each other we all have right to say about how we fee about the day to day runing of our country.why is it a problem is UDP is out of NADD? if you belife that and many of you alike then give Darbo what he own that is to lead.I do belife without UDP there will be no NADD,as Halifa is going at the back of his party leader O.Jo those not even know who he is Waa-Juwara the same Assan Musa camara not to say who els.
Pleas with respect do not insult me again, i respect you as i say, if you do it again i will not be nice with you.Peace and love long live UDP and long live Darbo.
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Redeemer
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Feb 2006 : 21:02:55
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Jammeh:it is sad that you dont seem to be awaken to the content of my article which is unity within the alliance and not the other way round.Your thinny arguement that Darboe being the opposition leader has the god given right to lead is simply incorrect, I believe the leader should be selected base on the strict code of selection criteria set in the MOU.Dont get me wrong I harbour no grudge against mr Darboe as unlike you I would throw my unflinching support to Darboe if duly selected by NADD.What I will not do unlike you is to tell my family not to vote for NADD if anybody apart from Darboe is selected to be the flagbearer.That is the distinction and no disrespect to you but that is a very retrogressive political judgement.I certainly feel you harbour some hidden agenda and you are not ready to spell the beans.It is not a statue written scipture that majority leader should always lead, well if that is the case then why the need to go for the selection process mr Darboe should have been simply coronated.Your cheap arguement that udp would overcome NADD in the polls is ridiculous as the battle is not between the two parties but APRC is the common enemy here.My brother you living in finland your political judgement should over weigh far more than what am receiving from your end.I can tell you I use to be a very passioante supporter of the udp and I can tell you I was one of the most emotionally depressed after the outcome of the last two presidential elections but that is history now we need to face the political reality and take on the incumbency on a united front.We are up against a dictator who would never relinquish power voluntarily so what do we do about that would Darboes break up help in that certainly not.
Point of correction I am not saying that you should not enquire the educational standards of our political masters but where I differ from you is that only the most educated should lead and that is wrong.Public administratiuon is not about bagging bsc, msc and phds it needs more than that.Darboe is well educated and one of the high profile human rights lawyer and my highest respect to him for that and dont get me wrong we desperately need elites like him in the third repulic.In conclusion my approach to contribution in this forum has been rather subdued but I have seen many out of context articles and I feel someone needs to correct that and take them on and that is what am exactly doing no disrespect to you .GOOD DAY. |
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jammeh
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Posted - 10 Feb 2006 : 22:53:44
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Redeemer:
(APRC is the common enemy)well you might be right but for me APRC is not an enemy as they are gambians like you and me,Yaya may have a different political system of which we all dont want our country be rule like, but to say enemy to me is not fair as you say.Coalition is the union of different political parties or groups for a particular purpose usually for a limitted time.if that is so why if Darbo move out of it is a big problem, if Oja also has the intrest of the country in heart why? can´t he give up because of his nomination is dividing NADD?Why every one is blaming Darbo.We need to deciide this in a democratically based on the whises of the electorates not a bunch of people who has hiden agender for Darbo,
I dont know were you are no do i care my bean in Finland has nothing to do with what i am saying, you are welcome here too,the issue is our country not were i am.i will rather ask my people to vote for Yaya then to vote for O.j and Halifa, that is my right as a Gambian but it is left to my people if they will do so.Bringing O.j is just asking me to vote for the former presdent back in power.Education is essiantial in this issue we have make mistake in the past we should not repeat them again.Leadership refers to the set of charateristic that make a good leader,NADD cant flourished under O.j no cant it be under Halifa,Underestimating Darbo that he cant unseat Yaya in the next elcetion may be a bigest mistake many of you will do in your lifes.If Darbo inseat why can´t O.j give up to keep NADD together that is what people like you to talk to him about.My question to you and other´s is that can any of you tell me in which countries on this earth you see a coalition lead by mainority leader more over who is not even confirm by his own party?why cant you tell me one with your political experty.
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the reasion i say to me APRC is not an enemy is that they are Gambians and have the right to rule this dose not mean i support the way the country is bean govern,no freedom, that is not right and i dont support them for that but to say enemy to me is a strong word and i cnat agree with you as you cant agree with me to tell your people to vote for YAya if Darbo is Sedia is not chosen.so you can see brother this is the real world and that is how Democarcy is.remember to foregt were i am we are talking about Gambia not were iam you can come here and i will be please to welcome you as a brother with clearn heart. |
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Redeemer
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Posted - 11 Feb 2006 : 00:08:13
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| jammeh:my assertion of branding the ruling party as the common enemy does not mean that they dont have the right to rule The Gambia am simply trying to put to you that both udp and NADD are up to defeat one party and that is the APRC.Well am base in uk and the reason I mention your country of residence is that am simply dissapointed by your political rhetorics considering that finland is a democracy so your political sentiments should measured up to that countrys standard but am afraid is the contrary.Jammeh get this right am not the fan of oj and I will be the last person to wish oj lead this coalition because I think he has ppp stains on him but the problem with you is that you seems to be hell bent on seeing Darboe lead that coalition come what may.I was shocked to hear that oj is a front runner in the leadership battle but for the shake of the alliance unity it will be unwise to kick him out.You dont sound like a democrat am afraid you sound too autocratic and I have an god feeling that you are harbouring a hidden agenda.people like you should wake up to the reality and stop stating that oj should step aside for Darboe that is undemocratic.I firmly believe a nadd flag bearer should not be coronated but should be won on merit.I keep preaching this to you politics is about delivery and competency and it is high time folks like you forget about Darboes fantasy dream of mansa Darboe as that is politics of the first republic and we the younger generation of Gambians should put our heads high and bring down any politician who want to impose himself as a mansa.The mansa thing always go with dictatorial tendencies and they end up resulting a self perpetuate rule.Jammeh that is what we are fighting to end in our country but it will be point less to remove one mansa and then reinstate it with another one.If Modern Gambian poilitics is not base on policies, and programmes but rather on personalities then am afraid the future looks bleak and it is indeed a sad moment for The Gambia.Finally I dont downplay the significance of the educatinal background of our politicians.I quite agree with you to some extent our servants need to be academically sound as in my opinion in the west notably the uk it is their best elites that join the political ring well that is my view and would love to see the cream of our elites in politics. |
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