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njucks

Gambia
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  17:24:50  Show Profile Send njucks a Private Message
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/in_depth/brits_abroad/html/africa.stm

apparently there are 5.5 million british people abroad.Most people claim to be running away from Gordon Brown.

according to the BBC there are 1500 in The Gambia, of which they claim only 88 are pensioners!!!

Edited by - njucks on 11 Dec 2006 17:31:12

serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  18:06:12  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by njucks

apparently there are 5.5 million british people abroad.Most people claim to be running away from Gordon Brown.
Spoilt mollycoddles. They should know the German ministers of finance...! .
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  18:14:21  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Immigration is a natural issues and it moves in both directions. While many africans risk going to Europe to make a living others are coming from Europe to Africa to make a living. Its not a one way traffic as most people think.

5.5 million is nearly four times the population of Gambia.
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serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  20:11:15  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
Kondorong, it is like acculturation: It goes both ways. I think Europeans today are much more 'African' or 'Asian' or... than their ancestors some 100 years ago.

Ergo: Cultural imperialists are silly dreamers...
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  21:21:51  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Most people who leave uk do so for better climates due to ill health or to avoid tax.
Some leave to experience another culture (not many!)
SOme for a better, less stressful life style, to get out of the rat race.

An increasing amount leave because they dont like the increased level of migration to the uk, the level of crime etc.....They talk about the 'state the country is in and it's gone to the dogs'. in other words many people who go abroad (especially Spain, South Africa and Australia ) are racist. They dont seem to see the irony of them being migrants to the country they go to!!!!

I would never emigrate. I love england too much. I like the countryside, the cups of tea, the seasons, the people, the tv!!!!
But I hate the darkness of winter and I would love to spend a few months each year chilling out in Gambia! Jan, Feb, March sounds good to me!!!!! This is my dream!
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  22:10:20  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
There are increasing numbers of retirees from the US to Mexico too. Its cheaper there and they live like kings and Queens
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njucks

Gambia
1131 Posts

Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  22:12:24  Show Profile Send njucks a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gambiabev
. in other words many people who go abroad (especially Spain, South Africa and Australia ) are racist. They dont seem to see the irony of them being migrants to the country they go to!!!!



really you are very funny. but you have a point, reminds me of white South Africans i have met mouning about ''the new banana republic''. most of them did not see the need to emigrate when the worst crimes were being committed under apartheid.

so i take it you are not afraid of Gordon then?


Kondorong, if Mexico is too far for you, try Kotu, Kerr Serign and Tranquil.

Edited by - njucks on 11 Dec 2006 22:13:40
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  22:22:22  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Tranquil is very expensive to live. Empty land is over 400K too much fortune for a man from Yoro Bawol.
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  22:52:02  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
23,000 Jamaica-based Britons are retired – indicating those who returned after a working life in the UK.

The trend of Jamaicans going back home after retirement has been going since 1980's among the early returnees was my maternal Grandfaher Bertie who was able to fulfil his dream and return to Jamaica to spend his last days.

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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 12 Dec 2006 :  07:41:04  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Njucks, I am a good socalist, so I try to pay my taxes without complaint. But inheritance taxes are a difficult one, you have paid tax on the money once already and then when you die you are heavily taxed on what you leave your children.

Sister Omega,
It is a lovely thought that many people from Jamaica get to feel some sun on their old bones after suffering our english winters all their working lives. Good luck to them, and a long and healthy retirement!
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 12 Dec 2006 :  18:26:31  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gambiabev

Njucks, I am a good socalist, so I try to pay my taxes without complaint. But inheritance taxes are a difficult one, you have paid tax on the money once already and then when you die you are heavily taxed on what you leave your children.

Sister Omega,
It is a lovely thought that many people from Jamaica get to feel some sun on their old bones after suffering our english winters all their working lives. Good luck to them, and a long and healthy retirement!



Its because the inheritance is an income for the children and as such attracts tax. Its like a car, anytime you sell it, you pay tax and if sold again it attracts tax.
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Kololiboy

Gambia
15 Posts

Posted - 12 Dec 2006 :  22:26:50  Show Profile Send Kololiboy a Private Message
Bev
People who emigrate to another country are racist.

I don't understand, what a load of c**p
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 13 Dec 2006 :  08:09:33  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Many white english people migrate to Spain, Australia and so on to get away from 'Pakis', 'West Indians' etc.... They dont like the fact that UK has changed rapidly from a mainly white culture to a multicultural society. They think England is in a mess and they want to get out.

Some go for the sunshine, for a fresh start, some run away from problems, so go for work or business opportunities, but many go because they dont like UK society anymore and they worry about the future (violence, crime, islamisation???? and so on).

I think there is an element of racism in that view.
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 13 Dec 2006 :  11:49:10  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
It's ironic in those stats they didn't mention what portion of ethnic minorities were among the Brits emigrating.
To reveal this stat would give us a real idea of how many non-white emigrants are leaving the UK to have a more realistic picture of the scale of non white immigration in Britain.

I think the rise in property prices ,the high value of sterling, increased taxation, an erosion of civil liberties impact migration more than racism for white pwople because even if a white Brit goes to another European Country he will still be seen as a foreigner and let's face it Britain isn't the most popular country in the world at the moment. I think for non white Britons that institutional racism in Britain would come higher up the agenda for leaving because the system is rampant with discrimination. Too often qualified non- whites find it difficult to obtain employment in the areas which they have been trained in. Therefore you will find Baristers driving taxi cabs etc. And of course the rise of Islamisation my account for 80,000 Asians returning home.

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