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kondorong
Gambia
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 Posted - 13 Nov 2006 : 19:54:52
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Originally posted by njucks
Kondorong, as always i have to correct you. Jupiter is still a Planet, after Mars,its the fifth from the Sun. Obviously you were not paying attention as Armitage.
the mandinka Law as she put it has to be understood in that context. you cannot have a people or society if there are no laws,rules,customs.
i think Sister Omega is right. you have to proof otherwise and not us to come with the evidence. its not just the portugese who were in Gambia before the british finally settled. the French were at Albreda long before the british a similar building is still at Albreda. also before formal colonialism, there were royal charter companies like the Royal African Company etc. these were private companies operating based on profit and could abandon any place if its not bring in money.
proof to us otherwise, most of the data on slavery tourism is from Records in the Gambia and they say its a slave house.
At a world scientific conference two months ago, Pluto is officially taken off the list of Planets. Thats not in text books yet.
The solar system now has only 8 planets. Pluto is no longer a planet.
Sorry i meant to say Pluto not Jupiter. I am embarassed. My georgraphy teacher will not be proud of me. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Nov 2006 : 22:45:56
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Kondorong even though Astronomers have decided to change the classification of Pluto. This will not happen overnight or for several generations if this is to be accepted universially. Conventionally there are 9 planets in the solar system.
Njucks you've suggested some good leads i.e Royal Africa Company e or the French as the original owners. But I am quite sure if it was british built you would of learnt in your history class.
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 14 Nov 2006 : 13:01:36
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Originally posted by kondorong
Alhassan
I now know what you are talking about. The Trial of Marafang Busumbala was a play written by Gabriel Roberts former IEC Chairman in 1971. It was about a trial between a character called Maxwell Armitage who was Principal of Armitage High School and also a member of Parliament and Marafang Busumbala for the theft of his radio.
The play is about campus life and how high placed officials abuse their office. The Principal used to turn on his radio loud disturbing teachers and students. Marafang stole the radio for prevent the excessive noise. Marafang was in court for stealing, however, during the trial, evidence came up that the Principal (Maxwell) was not an honest person. Marafang eventually won the case.
Remember Gabriel Roberts was once Education Director under PPP and i think was fired. He however left office in some controversy. I may be wrong about that.
Whilst the character Maxwell Armitage which was the name of Principal of Armitage in this play does not really exist, there is evidence that a former Principal of Armitage Mr. Sallah did serve as Member of Parliament around Independence. Whether that is a coincidence or not remains unclear.
It was a play and not a true history.
Thanks Kons. for making things clear. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 21:41:03
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Originally posted by njucks
also the building could have had a dual purpose. whoeever owned it could have been invoved in both slavery and other mechantile activity. the thing is, any trade on the island would have to reach the coast by river and the island could have been used as a transit point.
there are shackles there. hence slavery was going on,perhaps only temporarily.we cannot agree when the building was built as you dont know that yourself. personally i believe it was there before, otherwise, if it was built by people in authority/prison it would have had military hardware liek cannons etc.
but you have got a lot of people thinking with very challenging questions.
therefore i will Declare November Bantaba Month of History.
The presence of a shackle is no proof of slavery. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 22:36:04
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Originally posted by kondorong
The presence of a shackle is no proof of slavery.
. you may be right. i'm trying very hard to see what else it could be used for |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 23:02:34
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| Its a very interesting thread and has kept me searching through various resources and there seems to be no record of the house being a slave house. I am now convinced that the building could only be a warehouse. |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 23:33:45
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Originally posted by Momodou
Its a very interesting thread and has kept me searching through various resources and there seems to be no record of the house being a slave house. I am now convinced that the building could only be a warehouse.
. i found it interesting too. but do not give in now, its almost end of the month unless there is new evidence we must accept the status quo.
those who dont believe its a Slave house should proof otherwise. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 30 Nov 2006 : 00:09:43
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The proof is there is no evidence that its a slave house. A six year study was commissioned between 1982 to 1988 by international organisations and the results came with nothing. ITS NOT A SLAVE HOUSE.
The ministry of Tourism should accept the fact that its an error. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 : 11:14:14
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Kons which organisation conducted this research and what are their findings based on?
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 : 18:16:39
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| If the ministry of tourism proves me wrong, i will shave my long beard and become a bumpster. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 : 18:50:29
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| Don't you think an archaeological dig could help to solve the mistery of this building ? |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 : 18:57:19
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If my memory serves me right, rock samples were taken from the site. It is not a slave house. In those days any settlements with whites were associated with slavery and hence this can easily pass as one in local legend.
Some people were brought there for punishment from sierraleone. Perhaps they may have been tied up, but that did not make them slaves. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 : 07:43:49
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I WAS NOT FOLLOWING THIS TOPIC FROM THE BIGGINING BUT ACTUALLY BROTHERS SLAVERY DID OCCUR AND I THINK THE SLAVE HOUSE IS TRUE.I MET THIS PAST FRIDAY A JAIMICAN MUSLIM WHO ASK ME WERE I WAS FROM ,I SAID THE GAMBIA. THIS MAN EMBRACE ME.HE SAID YOU CAN BE MY RELATIVE. I ASK WHY? HE SAID HIS FATHER'S GRAN MOTHER WAS A FREE SLAVE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO TRACE THERE ROOTS TO THE GAMBIA AREA. I WAS SADDENED AND HAPPY. THE GUY IS A NICE FELLOW,AND A GOOD MUSLIM. A LOT OF JAIMICAN'S WOULD NOT DO THAT.THEY HATE US FOR WHAT OUR ANCESTORS DID. THIS IS TRUE. I PRAYED FOR HIM AND WE ARRANGE TO MET SOME TIME LATER.
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"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Sister Omega
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 : 16:18:12
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Santafara your assertation is unsubstantiated to say that a lot of Jamaicans hate Africans for what was done to our ancestors. Let's not forget that we share a common DNA therefore our African Ancestor could also be related to yours.
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 : 16:31:58
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Originally posted by SANTANFARA
I WAS NOT FOLLOWING THIS TOPIC FROM THE BIGGINING BUT ACTUALLY BROTHERS SLAVERY DID OCCUR ......... A LOT OF JAIMICAN'S WOULD NOT DO THAT.THEY HATE US FOR WHAT OUR ANCESTORS DID. THIS IS TRUE. LET US NOT WASTE OUR TIME ON DEBATING A HOUSE.
there is no evidence for what you just said. its simply your opinion. this debate was not a waste of time, but questions, serious ones were raised and not answered.
thousands of people and students go to that house annually and they are told its a slave house. if there is evidence that its not then we shouldn't lie about it. the issue of slavery must be handled respectfully and honestly because millions died.
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