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kobo
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 01:28:51
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"Tabanaani" grows as a tree. In the 60s and late 70s plague around KG V Stadium (BANJUL SOUTH). Its a poisonous plant and acidic or gaseous with a smell of fuel. The fruits has a hard round nut and is green at early stages and becomes dark or very black at maturity or ripe stage. Its a special rare plant and few were seen around Banjul. They appear to be exotic plants germinated under a tree planting exercise at KG V sometime immediately around independence as the trees can survive over five to ten years. The nuts surrounded by the acidic fruit cover is as hard as rock and it was a popular weapon for vandalism and to injure someones head on the spot bleeding. Trees can be over 15 metres high and with wide bark. The tree is drought resistance and each fruit protrudes from a tiny single branch extension of about 6 - 9 inches long. To describe the fruit and the branch is like for instance the fruit appears to be round and almost the size of table tennis attached to a branch (6-9 inches) from the tree cover with lots of leaves with a good shade cover. You can have over hunders of these fruit like produce from a tree. The branch is very hard and if you cut it from the tree you can use the round ball together with the branch for a drum stick and can play with for a very long time as it is very hard and strong.
Thats all I can describe on what "Tabannani" is. I knew it very well when at Primary school days in Banjul. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 01:57:44
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Originally posted by kobo
"Tabanaani" grows as a tree. In the 60s and late 70s plague around KG V Stadium (BANJUL SOUTH). Its a poisonous plant and acidic or gaseous with a smell of fuel. The fruits has a hard round nut and is green at early stages and becomes dark or very black at maturity or ripe stage. Its a special rare plant and few were seen around Banjul. They appear to be exotic plants germinated under a tree planting exercise at KG V sometime immediately around independence as the trees can survive over five to ten years. The nuts surrounded by the acidic fruit cover is as hard as rock and it was a popular weapon for vandalism and to injure someones head on the spot bleeding. Trees can be over 15 metres high and with wide bark. The tree is drought resistance and each fruit protrudes from a tiny single branch extension of about 6 - 9 inches long. To describe the fruit and the branch is like for instance the fruit appears to be round and almost the size of table tennis attached to a branch (6-9 inches) from the tree cover with lots of leaves with a good shade cover. You can have over hunders of these fruit like produce from a tree. The branch is very hard and if you cut it from the tree you can use the round ball together with the branch for a drum stick and can play with for a very long time as it is very hard and strong.
Thats all I can describe on what "Tabannani" is. I knew it very well when at Primary school days in Banjul.
good that you know abot the plant. It looks like not all is lost in Australia |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 02:22:53
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Serenata thanks, i'm around and following your postings. i hope you're enjoying Gambia.
Momodou thanks for the info.Taba could be short for Tabanani in fact jatropha is more like a shrub and Tabo is a tree, a big one if i'm right with huge butress roots liek the Kapok.
Kondorong, Tomborong in wollof is ''Saydaime''. sulu tomborong might not be jatropha as no one eats jatropha (they're wont live to tell you they did). i think i know what you're trying to explain as sulu tomborong. it might be '' hori jenjen'' in wollof. its bitter and not far from gray/white.
anyway regarding ''bui'' i was merely pointing out my experience with differences in gambian/senegalese wollof . for example we generally say '' wonjo'' they say '' bissap'' for the drink. they call '' Kaba ndongo'' something else as well.
i'm check with some friends i went to school with but i'm certain it was tabanani that we bought after school! in fact i wonder if kids can still buy it?
NJUCKS welcome back. Tabo is not the same as Tabanani. Tabo or Taba is as big as a baobab tree and its fruit pinkish wen ripe. The fruits are in six(s) or less. However Tabanini is a drought resistant plant i don't how it came to be a Gambian plant. What i do know is that wen we were young there are people who use it for fencing their yards. Our parents used to warn us about hiding into them during the rains as snakes were said to be within. During the dry season it sheds its leaves, but in the rains its leavy again.It bears fruits by fours maybe thats why the mandinka call it TABANANI(FOUR TABAS). The fulas from Guinea used the dry leaves for tea since it was medicinal. We as young boys used its Y-shaped branches for our Catapults(catapole) stick and then attach elastic string from inner tubes of bicycles. When also one had a fresh cut we used the liquid from the broken branch to stop the bleeding.
I think i saw few tabanani plants in the muslims cemetery at New Jeswhwang, Old Banjul Muslim cemetery, Lamin at the entrance by the Abuko nature reserve and Tallinding cemetery. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 07:58:46
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| Sorry folks mixed description of "tabanaani" to some extent as nuts being very hard as a rock with another plant. However to rectify that in a plant tree you can have over hundreds on it and they felt around the tree when over ripe. They are mainly sizes of marbles (1/4"-1/3" diameter). |
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gambia6005
Canada
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Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 09:18:46
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sorry people but the reason I wrote this link is not to start a
discussion abouth the name,but to kindly urge the people of
the gambia to gather the seeds and expent the trees in order to
get more fuel and gain an extra income when they use or sell the fuel
or make soap from it;so if you can convince your falily's and relatives to cultivate the tree the gambia will have an export product because there is a big demand for the oil
or they can used it themself in both generators or diesel carrs
even in petrollamps.when we can convince farmers or womans coop
to grow this tree it will fight poverty in rural areas
and this is my goal.for exemple see
http://www.malifolkecenter.org |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 13:21:43
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well gambia6005. thats the bantanba? we can start talking about tyres and end up discussing the size of Fish! strange but we learn a lot and share experiences along the way.
regarding Jatropha, i think its important that people know which/name of the tree you're recommending in the first place.imagine if i told someone that i heard that what i ''thought'' was tabanani could produce fuel!!!!. you see the danger?
there are many interesting solutions being presented to help solve Africa's many problems and i hope your suggestions are taken seriously by people. |
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gambia6005
Canada
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Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 16:39:09
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Jatropha curcas (Tabanani in Wolof, Baganaa in Mandinka, Kiidi in Pulaar) is a widespread plant in Senegal as in most tropical countries; it is often used as a live fence, and its leaves are used to treat certain skin ailments. The hedgerows protect agricultural soils against erosion, and it is inedible to animals. The oil from the seeds can be used to make soap, and also as fuel in diesel engines.
The oil, extracted using a manual RAM press and then filtered, can be used in diesel engines without any kind of chemical modification. A minor retrofitting of the motor, to allow switching between jatropha and petroleum-based fuel, is the only technical requirement.
In remote rural areas, where acquisition of commercial fuels can be difficult and expensive, Jatropha fuel is often valued because it can be produced locally. Jatropha fuel can power grain mills, motor pumps, electric generators, even vehicles. Fuel consumption is almost identical between Jatropha oil and diesel fuel, and they have equivalent power output.
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2006 : 01:27:38
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The fruit appears to look like grapes and rich with juicy dark tick fluid. Has a very strong smell of fuel but don't know whether it is useful or not!
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gambia6005
Canada
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Posted - 12 Jan 2007 : 15:13:50
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hi can anyone name me places in the gambia where I can find the tabanani seeds or trees-just all places in the gambia
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jan 2007 : 15:58:53
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Originally posted by gambia6005
hi can anyone name me places in the gambia where I can find the tabanani seeds or trees-just all places in the gambia
some places where i saw these, Lamin Kombo north by Abuko after the weigh bridge, Old Jeshwang by the Village cemetery,Manduar. This about three years ago am not sure whether they would still be around. Try N goodluck |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 19 Jan 2007 : 20:22:03
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Originally posted by MADIBA
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Originally posted by gambia6005
hi can anyone name me places in the gambia where I can find the tabanani seeds or trees-just all places in the gambia
some places where i saw these, Lamin Kombo north by Abuko after the weigh bridge, Old Jeshwang by the Village cemetery,Manduar. This about three years ago am not sure whether they would still be around. Try N goodluck
Madiba/gambia6005
last weekend i searched for the tree at the cemetry mentioned but i couldnt find any.
but i went further along the coastal towns and managed to find it in a few compounds used for fencing. the guy who showed me the tree was a fula guy and he knew it as Kiidi.according to him its not found in the wild atleast in Kombo but only in side the villages as fencing material.
In all these villages no one knew it by the name Baganaa. I asked for the mandinka name and they told me it was tuba tabo (tubab tabo). other mandinkas also called it tabanani as well as the wollof. perhaps this is why its difficult to find it. One sarakuli guy from Kantora said Baganaa was bambara not mandinka.
anyway at the Police station in Brufut you will find some as well as the compound before it, both use it for fencing.
the stem is of the same quality like cassava stems and i was told you can grow jatropha just like cassava by simply planting the cuttings of the stem.
i hope this helps |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Jan 2007 : 01:33:30
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Madiba/gambia6005
last weekend i searched for the tree at the cemetry mentioned but i couldnt find any.
but i went further along the coastal towns and managed to find it in a few compounds used for fencing. the guy who showed me the tree was a fula guy and he knew it as Kiidi.according to him its not found in the wild atleast in Kombo but only in side the villages as fencing material.
In all these villages no one knew it by the name Baganaa. I asked for the mandinka name and they told me it was tuba tabo (tubab tabo). other mandinkas also called it tabanani as well as the wollof. perhaps this is why its difficult to find it. One sarakuli guy from Kantora said Baganaa was bambara not mandinka.
anyway at the Police station in Brufut you will find some as well as the compound before it, both use it for fencing.
the stem is of the same quality like cassava stems and i was told you can grow jatropha just like cassava by simply planting the cuttings of the stem.
i hope this helps
Njucks,
In Lamin , its behind where techniques engineering company is/was left of the weigh bridge coming from Abuko end. The people around that end most are mansuankas/manjaks/balantas. They used it as you rightly mentioned for fencing.
In The Old Jewsang Cemetery, some where inside the cemetery and people used to chop some and plant them on new graves. The shrubs were also available behind the fence of the cemetery.
In Manduar, its in the first compunds wen entering the village comin from the Brikama end. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 22 Jan 2007 : 17:04:30
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| ok i'll check when i pass by there. thanks |
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