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ranga
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 Posted - 03 Sep 2006 : 20:23:19
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jambo, your note is even more insightful. Thailand had similar reputation. I wonder if they have done anything to solve it. Perhaps we can learn from it.
This is an interesting issue. If the only solution to fix this issue depends on the police, we need to see if they have any natural incentive to fix it. I'm always looking for solutions where an educated populace can take actions that can cause bigger changes. Environmental activism is one such issue where the long term thinking of educated people is making a difference.
I am drawing blank on ideas or suggestions now. Perhaps others have some ideas on what individuals (both enlightened tourists and educated Gambians perhaps in the tourist industry) can take unilaterally to improve matters.
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T.K. "Ranga" Rengarajan
Founder, Geoseed Project
http://www.geoseedproject.com
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twinkly
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Sep 2006 : 20:49:08
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Originally posted by ranga
If the only solution to fix this issue depends on the police, we need to see if they have any natural incentive to fix it. I'm always looking for solutions where an educated populace can take actions that can cause bigger changes. Environmental activism is one such issue where the long term thinking of educated people is making a difference.
So in other words we need to educate the gambian police and society?
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that.
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I am drawing blank on ideas or suggestions now. Perhaps others have some ideas on what individuals (both enlightened tourists and educated Gambians perhaps in the tourist industry) can take unilaterally to improve matters.
Sorry, am no enlightened tourist nor an educated Gambian in the tourist industry but
a good and simple way to improve matters would be if the tourists would stop being so naive and show some respect and decency.
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ranga
USA
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Posted - 03 Sep 2006 : 21:04:27
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twinkly, I have obviously miscommunicated. I'm not suggesting that the solution to this issue is to educate all Gambians. That will take a couple of generations. I'm suggesting that there may be some actions that can be taken by those Gambians (yes, including police) that are already educated and care about this issue. Also, I'm using the word "education" in the general sense, well beyond the formal education.
BTW, just going by your good will and positions, I'd consider you an enlightened tourist. I feel there is no need to worry about qualifications for expressing our opinions in this forum.
It will absolutely help if the tourists show some respect and decency. How do we go about encouraging the tourists to show respect, when they don't and the police won't enforce the laws? If many tourists instead come for the "other attractions", how does a sensible tourist help improve matters unilaterally? That's what I'm thinking about.
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Founder, Geoseed Project
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Eve
Gambia
344 Posts |
Posted - 04 Sep 2006 : 09:36:42
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| How about those police, are they clean? will be good if they can do something then. |
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Eve
Gambia
344 Posts |
Posted - 04 Sep 2006 : 09:43:32
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 04 Sep 2006 : 09:58:54
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the solution is always in the hands of the law, in any country the police and authorities have the power.
As for thailand you could not be that open onteh prostitute sitation if the it against the law.
They do not need educating they know the game. gambians have the power to stop this,
The stopped to young children selling peanuts on teh beach after complaints that this constituted child labour.
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Formby
United Kingdom
246 Posts |
Posted - 04 Sep 2006 : 19:05:56
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Babylon, why are you using the second person when I clearly stated that I had not ever 'bought' sex from a Gambian? It does nothing to strengthen your point. I merely visit the place and in fact, don't have sex with Gambians paid or unpaid, and never have done. I really rather resent the implication.
Jambo, what will the police do? Make sex with someone of a different race/age illegal? Stopping any sort of child exploitation is a different matter because children are vulnerable and need protection by the law, but the point many are missing here is that adults will and can do as they wish. I can't think of a single statutory instrument that could stop it. |
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ranga
USA
149 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2006 : 01:27:41
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| One idea is to create a "Beware List" of companies that offer questionable services to tourists. If there are well-known companies that benefit financially from these practices, it will be good to expose them. Agencies in Europe and USA could make such a "Beware List" available to tourists as a beneficial service to warn them. The Wikipedia is a good place to start the list and can be maintained by enlightened tourists who run into new operators from time to time. This idea will work only if the vast majority of people want to fix this issue. On the other hand, this could backfire. For those looking for fun, this would be the list they'd consult first! |
T.K. "Ranga" Rengarajan
Founder, Geoseed Project
http://www.geoseedproject.com
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2006 : 09:46:13
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the topic of this forum is the older white women with black young men and how it portrays gambia in a bad light.
you cannot make it illegal, butRanga is right you can make an "awareness campaign". I would like more of the hotels to stop them coming into the hotels, there are restaurants and bars to have a drink in.
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bantaba
Switzerland
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Posted - 05 Sep 2006 : 16:13:10
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sab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Sep 2006 : 16:28:35
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Greetings Jambo - I think you might be caught up in the media-hype or even 'Blair spin' using the words - awareness campaign, what actually do you mean?
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The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2006 : 17:09:34
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hi sab, iwas thinkg of something that ranga mentioned a beware of , but you cannot be aware of something you are not AWARE OF. if that makes sense.
It should be brounght to the attention of individiuals, corporations, goverments not just Gambia but the impact that their mis-behaviour has.
this has been happening in Gambia for a while but not it is becoming an "Awareness issue, the television programme in Belgium the article in the UK newspaper Daily Mail. some of the postings on the bantaba. you get my drift. It was the
BLAIR , but you get m |
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bantaba
Switzerland
61 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2006 : 03:27:15
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| Has anyone seen this TV episode if so was it critical about the situation in the Gambia |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2006 : 09:59:54
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i have not seen it but I think the theme olde white woman young black man is going to be talked about for a while.
there is a film out starring Charlotte Rampling about women going to the caribbean in search of love.
there is play in london sugar mummies, the tv shoew in belgium.
So Gambia has not been targetted as such.
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Eve
Gambia
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Posted - 06 Sep 2006 : 11:28:19
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| Anyone want to watch it, sent me yr address, then i can sent it to you, or i will look for solution how to put it at Bantaba. |
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