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                       Posted - 04 Jul 2013 :  00:25:07
                        
                 
                      
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                      |  These things happen between the sexes kids of 16 are more grown up than in past years,any sentence imposed by the court should FIRST consider the baby and the mother,unless the mother is shown to be unfit .the child should be allowed to grow normally without being placed in care of social services. | 
                     
                    
                        "Simple is good"  & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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                 Karamba 
                 
                
      
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                       Posted - 04 Jul 2013 :  02:13:30
                        
                 
                      
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                      |  Quite agreeable Toubab1020. This seems a swing of the pendulum from male dominance of the student teacher affair. You are right, the sentence will be seen lenient when much consideration is given to that new member. | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 04 Jul 2013 :  13:10:37
                        
                 
                      
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                       Teachers are in a position of trust, and she abused it. 
   What happened to a sense of responsibility?
  A 15 yr old child needs protecting!!!!
  And just because someone is sexually mature/active at a young age does not mean that they have matured in other aspects of their lives.  Even if a youngster is offering it to you on a plate...you say NO...surely that goes without saying!!
  I AM DISGUSTED. 
 
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                       Posted - 05 Jul 2013 :  01:14:02
                        
                 
                      
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                       "Position of trust" "sense of responsibility" Yes agreed in all walks of life,but these are the times we live in,you may as well say these things never happened when I was young ! Oh yes they did but were never talked about I know social workers who were instructed not to give their name when telephoned over a matter of child welfare but were told to say "I am the social worker on duty" how can I help you ? sense of responsibility ?,I don't think so. In this case if the press reports are accurate there was no indication of a youngster offering anything on a plate. 
 
 
 
 quote: Originally posted by kisley
  Teachers are in a position of trust, and she abused it. 
   What happened to a sense of responsibility?
  A 15 yr old child needs protecting!!!!
  And just because someone is sexually mature/active at a young age does not mean that they have matured in other aspects of their lives.  Even if a youngster is offering it to you on a plate...you say NO...surely that goes without saying!!
  I AM DISGUSTED. 
 
 
 
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                        "Simple is good"  & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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                 Karamba 
                 
                
      
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                       Posted - 05 Jul 2013 :  01:27:25
                        
                 
                      
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                      |  On this occasion, it is not clear who made the advance. Indications are that the female teacher could not keep her mind away from the 15 year boy. men are more known for preying on younger females. | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 05 Jul 2013 :  07:54:12
                        
                 
                      
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                       Dear Karamba and Toubab
  I was not for one minute suggesting that in this particular case anything was "offered on a plate".  
  I was merely pointing out that some people seem to think that because a teenager is sexually active, and doing all the running then that somehow negates the actions of the offending adult. | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 05 Jul 2013 :  22:47:56
                        
                 
                      
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                        Thanks for that,I note your comments in this posting are fair.thanks for clarifing points that I failed to grasp. 
 
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  Dear Karamba and Toubab
  I was not for one minute suggesting that in this particular case anything was "offered on a plate".  
  I was merely pointing out that some people seem to think that because a teenager is sexually active, and doing all the running then that somehow negates the actions of the offending adult.
 
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                        "Simple is good"  & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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                 Karamba 
                 
                
      
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                       Posted - 06 Jul 2013 :  02:43:09
                        
                 
                      
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                      |  Thank you for this clarity Kisley. Your observation is sensible. | 
                     
                    
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