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kiwi
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kobo
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Senegambia
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 Posted - 05 May 2013 : 09:24:45
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| Nice music. So much coming out from Gambia these days but still hard to find one this good. Thanks for sharing guys! |
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sab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 May 2013 : 18:47:53
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Kiwi many thanks for your link - long time I have been trying to find this track & not knowing the artist. I'm really pleased. |
The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 May 2013 : 19:50:12
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Kiwi. We should thank you because we all enjoying them over and over again.
MANDING MORRY HAS DISCOVERED HIS NICHE "AFROMANDING" SOUNDS; ESPECIALLY HIS FOLK CULTURE & FOLK MUSIC AND SHOULD AVOID AT ALL COST SHIFTING INTO NON-CULTURAL MUSIC LIKE RAP MUSIC ETC. IF CONSISTENT AND WITH PROPER MANAGEMENT SUCCESS IS GUARANTEED FOR HIM IN MUSIC INDUSTRY; AS BIG TIME ARTIST NOT ONLY FOR THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND BUT GLOBAL  |
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kobo
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kiwi
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Posted - 07 May 2013 : 22:43:57
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kobo
United Kingdom
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tiramakhan
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Posted - 12 May 2013 : 13:31:49
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Kobo writes:
"Kiwi. thanks for sharing this beautiful music, undiluted original smiling coast roots afro manding song, traditional manding culture promoted (…); whose soul voice amazingly can only remind us "golden voice" great late Pap Touray (may his soul r.i.p) of ifangbondi songs ("Sanjo" here) & (Juldeh Camara's "Kibaru" here) and Touray Kunda family songs ( "Fondinké" here) with ("Salya" here) & ( "Kalo Kalo" here)"
"Manding Morry has discovered his niche "afromanding" sounds; especially his folk culture & folk music and should avoid at all cost shifting into non-cultural music like rap music etc. if consistent and with proper management success is guaranteed for him in music industry; as big time artist not only for the gambia our homeland but global"
Here's to set the record straight about the Afromanding sound as pioneered by Ifang Bondi and adopted by musicians throughout West Africa.
The true Afromanding sound is an innovative development of the traditional music styles of different West African cultures, including transposition to modern instruments.
The name refers to the ancient Manding empire which united all these cultures.
Fueled by the originators' pan-African sentiments the new music style represented a strong back-to-the roots movement, discarding western influences.
Afromanding pieces feature a specific ethnic style - Mandinka/Fula/Jola/Wolof/Serer etc. - incorporating scales, modes and rhythms typical for that particular music idiom.
Apart from his Mandinka lyrics and some formulaic mbalax, Manding Morry's tracks lack such traditional components. His is a typical crossover product, borrowing heavily from mainstream R&B and hip hop.
The Afromanding generation of musicians stressed their African identity. The current generation, with access to social media, eagerly embraces global trends, without qualms about the mostly western origins.
As elsewhere young urban audiences in The Gambia clearly favour instant YouTube style entertainment over artistic craftsmanship provided by an elite of accomplished music professionals.
Comparing Manding Morry to lead singers of Ifang Bondi or Toure Kunda is incorrect as Manding Morry aka Manding Gangsta isn't a singer but a rapper, and quite proud to be so.
It takes a superior voice, extensive musical training and knowledge plus sheer hard work to stand a chance as a successful singer. If Manding Morry has any ambition at all to embark on a professional career as a singer he still has a long way to go. Even then, it's doubtful whether he will ever be in the same league with vocal virtuosos as Pa Touray, Ali Harb or Alhadj Samb.
It is a misconception that a proper management guarantees success. It tends to be the other way around: success enables artists to get themselves a proper management.
For a taste of undiluted Afromanding by the next generation of Gambian musicians, check out Sura Susso, performing together with Binta Suso, children of Ifang Bondi's kora maestro Mamodou Susso:
"Chorobai Samba" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGWqU_Lc2oA
Sura shows his versatility with a foot in both the Afromanding and hip-hop camp: "MLK Feat Sura Susso - Musso Kendo" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNaKsjNPMg
Topping off this post with an exhilarating duet between Sura and his brother Seckou Keita, a great and adventurous kora player in his own right:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pa7JGbg830
Both Sura Susso and Seckou Keita are celebrated international artists, touring worldwide. Their performances ensure further exposure of the Afromanding sound.
Both are acclaimed for their successful collaborations with musicians worldwide.
Sura Susso: http://www.surasusso.com/
Seckou Keita: http://www.seckoukeita.com/
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The world is divided into people who do things, and people who get the credit. Try to belong to the first class - there's far less competition (D. Morrow) |
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kobo
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2013 : 21:21:39
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SPECIAL COOL ONES FROM THE KING JALIBA KUYATEH DEDICATED TO YOU ALL
Mbour Dabo
Djaliba KOUYATE ŕ Coubanao
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Originally posted by tiramakhan
"Comparing Manding Morry to lead singers of Ifang Bondi or Toure Kunda is incorrect as Manding Morry aka Manding Gangsta isn't a singer but a rapper, and quite proud to be so."
ON COMMENT ABOVE IT APPEARS THERE IS A CONTRAST IN STYLE FOR MANDING MORRY'S MASTERPIECE "Nnan Kamma" (take me away) WITH THIS YOUNG GAMBIAN TALENTED RAPPER ON "NJUNKU". ANYWAY BOTH ARE SWEET SONGS BUT DIFFERENT
ST Da Gambian Dream- "NJUNKU" Music Video |
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Janko
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kobo
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tiramakhan
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Posted - 13 Jun 2013 : 16:29:39
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Janko writes:
"The beat, the singing/rap is a perfect hybrid that Gambia alas can call hers", endorsing the earlier conclusion: "His is a typical crossover product, borrowing heavily from mainstream R&B and hip hop."
It has now been proved beyond doubt that - in defiance of Kobo's stern advice that he "should avoid at all cost shifting into non-cultural music like rap music" - this is exactly what Manding Morry together with his age group, has committed himself to.
"The sky is the limit", but it takes a high ladder to get there.
It seems premature to hail an inexperienced young artist as a big time artist not only for The Gambia our homeland but global on the strength of his lyrics on a 40 min. debut album.
Why not grant the kid a decade or so - most major artists needed far longer than that - to find himself such ladder and get climbing, in the process getting a glimpse of the world beyond the Kombos. Getting higher, he may even spot - well over the country's borders - descendants of the once indigenous Afromanding breed.
Gambian rap artists certainly don't lack a drive to achieve.
If only they would cut out this megalomania which seems to overwhelm them the moment they have negotiated the bottom rung of the ladder - believing to have arrived at the summit, and claiming superstar status.
Instead they rather get themselves a proper musical eduction. Nowadays with zillions of online music tutorials - from basic solfege to advanced instrumental or vocal master classes by international top musicians - a vocational training is within reach of everyone with a sense of purpose.
Worldwide aspiring (hip hop) artists found out long time ago about musical skills being a prerequisite to the next step on the ladder.
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The world is divided into people who do things, and people who get the credit. Try to belong to the first class - there's far less competition (D. Morrow) |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Jun 2013 : 21:51:35
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[quote]Originally posted by tiramakhan
Janko writes:
"The beat, the singing/rap is a perfect hybrid that Gambia alas can call hers", endorsing the earlier conclusion: "His is a typical crossover product, borrowing heavily from mainstream R&B and hip hop."
It has now been proved beyond doubt that - in defiance of Kobo's stern advice that he "should avoid at all cost shifting into non-cultural music like rap music" - this is exactly what Manding Morry together with his age group, has committed himself to.
I WOULD REPEAT WHAT I STATED THAT; However on your comment QUOTED; "Comparing Manding Morry to lead singers of Ifang Bondi or Toure Kunda is incorrect as Manding Morry aka Manding Gangsta isn't a singer but a rapper, and quite proud to be so." THAT I did not compare but felt inspired from his track "Nnan Kamma" (take me away) and stated "reminding us" them. What I heard on that track is not " Manding Gangsta aka rapper" style but beautiful soulful afromanding and credit deserved on folk singer (in that voice, arrangement form and production style); COURTESY OF SUNLAND MUSIC LABEL
ALSO THE COMMENT THAT; WHOSE SOUL VOICE AMAZINGLY CAN ONLY REMIND US "GOLDEN VOICE" GREAT LATE PAP TOURAY (MAY HIS SOUL R.I.P) OF IFANGBONDI SONGS ("SANJO" HERE) & (JULDEH CAMARA'S "KIBARU" HERE) AND TOURAY KUNDA FAMILY SONGS ( "Fondinké" HERE) WITH ("SALYA" HERE) & ( "KALO KALO" HERE).
I tried to gave full support, encouragement, rightly recommend and advised that "Manding Morry has discovered his niche "afromanding" sounds (for track "Nnan Kamma" (take me away)); especially his folk culture & folk music and should avoid at all cost shifting into non-cultural music like rap music etc. if consistent and with proper management success is guaranteed for him in music industry; as big time artist not only for the gambia our homeland but global."
"The sky is the limit", but it takes a high ladder to get there.
It seems premature to hail an inexperienced young artist as a big time artist not only for The Gambia our homeland but global on the strength of his lyrics on a 40 min. debut album.
Why not grant the kid a decade or so - most major artists needed far longer than that - to find himself such ladder and get climbing, in the process getting a glimpse of the world beyond the Kombos. Getting higher, he may even spot - well over the country's borders - descendants of the once indigenous Afromanding breed.
ALL MY COMMENTS ARE WHOLLY ON SOUND BITES OF 4 min. track "Nnan Kamma" (take me away). ALSO FURTHER REMINDED YOU "that Manding Morry cannot do it alone. Ifangbondi and Touray Kunda were great groups of talented artists."
ON YOUR COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH POOR GAMBIAN HUSTLER ARTIST MANDING MORRY TO HELP HIM PREPARE HIMSELF PROPERLY INTO THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES, DEVELOP, GUIDE HIM HOW TO TAP CERTAIN RESOURCES, GET RIGHT GROUP, GET PROPER MANAGEMENT AND ENCOURAGE TO WORK HARDER TO ACHIEVE SUCCESS
MORE MANDING MORRY UPLOADED YOUTUBE VIDEOS "AKA RAP GANGSTER STYLE"
Gambia Nyaato
Al naa nga taa
KANILAI MANDINGMORRY
Launching of Manding Empire TVC
WISHING HIM EVER SUCCESS |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 14 Jun 2013 : 00:48:13
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Tiramakhan
""The sky is the limit", but it takes a high ladder to get there."
You made some interesting observation and your points are well noted.
Yes, it’s a long way to go but that does not exempt a word of encouragement. The sky is the limit; is a metaphor for hard work, which entails schooling to master the art of music, and the ability to incorporate that knowledge in the IFANGO in the strife to fang bondoh.
Well, I can only judge from what I hear, the 4 minutes song, which in my view gives a flavor of the musical vision, direction and intention. I have not heard many,if any, clear definition or fusion of our music since IFANG. And am not comparing Manding Mori with IFANG, hence there would be no Manding Mori without IFANG. You are right; some musicians do not go beyond their first song or first album. Many things have to fall in place before one can reach the sky. IFANG had everything, in my view, to reach the highest heights but today much is not heard of them, in terms of their music and creativity, WHY? It is not because they did not climb that ladder hence they are the yardstick by which the ladder is measured, the vanguards that pioneered AFRO-Manding.
Tiramakhan wrote;
“Why not grant the kid a decade or so - most major artists needed far longer than that - to find himself such ladder and get climbing, in the process getting a glimpse of the world beyond the Kombos. Getting higher, he may even spot - well over the country's borders - descendants of the once indigenous Afromanding breed.”
You are spot on and this is why members of the IFANG like Badou Jobe are needed, for they have the ability to help the young generation to climb the ladder in vocational training centers that do not only train the young generation the basics of music but the virtue of being an artist. I am sure the young generation would be very joyful and proud to have pioneers like Badou as their, ladder, tutor and mentor. In my view the IFANG generation has everything the young generation needs, to go beyond the sky.
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Edited by - Janko on 14 Jun 2013 00:56:34 |
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