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jambo



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Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  20:51:01  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
NUCKS "there are many animals that were until recently (1913) in The Gambia, like the elephant".
first the elephants have disappeared now the dolphins have disappeared. what happened is it the human's fault.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  20:52:03  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by njucks

thanks Madiba

i didn't get that b/w you and Lemontime. but you're right that where the two waters meet.

SO thanks for an excellent article, maybe Kondonrong has seen a NINKI NANKA. i have heard people swear that it exists.

but there are many animals that were until recently (1913) in The Gambia, like the elephant. its hard to imagine that they were roaming about in this small country. it was also common to hear/see wild hyenas.



Kondorong and NINKI NANKA are cousins. I was invited to a wedding last week. You need fire proof jackets beacause NINKI NANKAS spit fire all the time. i was nearly roasted
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  21:22:19  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jambo

NUCKS "there are many animals that were until recently (1913) in The Gambia, like the elephant".
first the elephants have disappeared now the dolphins have disappeared. what happened is it the human's fault.



The disappearance of flora and fauna in The Gambia has been largely caused by human activity. Firstly for farming and shelter forest cover had been cleared in the event animals were killed and the rest fled. The Abuko nature reserve came into being because of a leopard that was harrassing the local majango community of Lameng, by preying on its pigs and other domestic animals. I was told that the briton Eddie Brewer in 1967 protected the area which is Abuko nature reserve. The Reserve died apprently with Mr. Brewer OBE.

The trees were fell for fencing, food(farming), energy(charcoal), medicinal purposes. So some species became extinct.

The wildlife dept have done alot with meager resources. Some lagre cats have been seen around in Kiang West National park recently. There is a large population of antelopes too there.


madiss
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Jack



Belgium
384 Posts

Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  22:20:32  Show Profile Send Jack a Private Message
Madiss,

and baboons too (in Kiang West)
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  22:25:25  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jede

Madiss,

and baboons too (in Kiang West)


Is it? Thats good news. The Kiang West Park is a success story and the Kiang people must also be given credit for keeping off the limits in terms of hunting, woodfelling and other nefarious activities. I was told that big cats like the Leopard were many times spotted there attimes by drivers coming late from trek crossing the road to or from the park.

These animals are also migrant like us humans. Some of our animals that have disappeared may have migrated into the Casamamce because of the rich forest cover like NIOKOLOKO BA forest park.

madiss
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  22:49:10  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Ninki Nanka by right should be hiding some treasure has anyone found it yet? Maybe Kondorong knows where it is and is feeling generous enough to share it with us.

Peace

Sister Omega

Peace
Sister Omega
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Jack



Belgium
384 Posts

Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  23:02:15  Show Profile Send Jack a Private Message
Madiba,

It could be that there are big cats spotted in Kiang West but I really doubt about that . The area is in my opinion to small to habit big predators on a permanent basis. You need an area like Niokola Koba in Senegal.

But you're right Kiang is beautiful. Unlucky i didn't have a good guide when i visited the nature park in 2005.

ci jamaa
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kondorong



Gambia
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  00:57:05  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Part of kiangs deforestation was when at one time their MP promised to build an airport and asked people in his constituency to cut down the forest for the project. Huge areas were cut down just for politics. The end result was that it quicken the pace of deforestion and the need to supply the urban areas for fire wood. WOODAYBA, avillage evolved solely to cut down trees for firewood. It is somewhere near SANKANDI VILLAGE NOT FAR FROM KALAGI.
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  08:44:03  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

Part of kiangs deforestation was when at one time their MP promised to build an airport and asked people in his constituency to cut down the forest for the project. Huge areas were cut down just for politics. The end result was that it quicken the pace of deforestion and the need to supply the urban areas for fire wood. WOODAYBA, avillage evolved solely to cut down trees for firewood. It is somewhere near SANKANDI VILLAGE NOT FAR FROM KALAGI.



KON! please please are you a baddibunka? I understand that these kiangkas had a go over the baddibunkas many years ago. The anecdote of the bowl and its cover ha ha ha

madiss
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njucks

Gambia
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  12:20:04  Show Profile Send njucks a Private Message
thanks Madiba,

elephants diasppeared from the gambia because it was hunted for sport in the colonial era like in other places in Africa. the national animal of the gambia is the elephant. before the Arch 22 at Independence drive there used to be a plaque about it at the fence of the old cemetry.

regarding big cats,infact i think the politician Waa Juwara is called Mbarodi (fula for Lion) because he killed a lion or something in the north bank by accident. i read about it in the observer.

i heard that there are many wild antelopes but i have never seen any except at Abuko. monkeys and baboons yes. also there is an English lady who runs a Gorilla rehabilitation program at one of the islands.there also a lot of wild pig/boars. this is the link

http://www.chimprehab.com/

what is killing these animals and the forest is our never ending appetite for charcoal and firewood. its devastating. even the Casamance is not as green as before.its crazy. very soon we will all be living in the desert counting ants!!

the story about the Airport at Kiang is just funny. i heard about it too. but dont promote Kondorong, he is from Yoro Bawol. a remote place where people have disproportionate expectations.

Edited by - njucks on 14 Jul 2006 12:30:01
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  12:43:57  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by njucks

thanks Madiba,

elephants diasppeared from the gambia because it was hunted for sport in the colonial era like in other places in Africa. the national animal of the gambia is the elephant. before the Arch 22 at Independence drive there used to be a plaque about it at the fence of the old cemetry.

regarding big cats,infact i think the politician Waa Juwara is called Mbarodi (fula for Lion) because he killed a lion or something in the north bank by accident. i read about it in the observer.

i heard that there are many wild antelopes but i have never seen any except at Abuko. monkeys and baboons yes. also there is an English lady who runs a Gorilla rehabilitation program at one of the islands.there also a lot of wild pig/boars.


what is killing these animals and the forest is our never ending appetite for charcoal and firewood. its devastating. even the Casamance is not as green as before.its crazy. very soon we will all be living in the desert counting ants!!

the story about the Airport at Kiang is just funny. i heard about it too. but dont promote Kondorong, he is from Yoro Bawol. a remote place where people have disproportionate expectations.



Njucks,

Thanks for your useful historical tips. Infact it is important to note that the exploitation was not entirely done by the local people but to a large extent by the colonialists. I wonder what those who built Arch 22 have done to that plaque. A frustrating fact is there are few Gambians who are ready to present to the people our true historical facts. How many practisng archaelogist to we have ? This lack of local historians and archaelogists led to diluted stories about our heritage. Simply because he who write about you , would only give out he feels like giving which may not be the whole truth.


The Bristish lady runnning the champanzee rehab in CRD is the late Eddie Brewers daughter Stella Brewer. Well they are doing a good job along with the help of the wildlife dept. This situation was foretold about 30years ago by a declaration made by DK Jawara, called the Banjul declaration of 1977. The document follwed the declaration with scenic representation of Past, Present and Future of the forest cover. The future showed mice, a few other rodents, less green environment, with few palm trees etc. The only solace and hope we have in The Gambia today is the parks in the Kiang, Nuimi, Bao boolong , makasutu etc. Atleast the little could be preserved.


On the forest cover and its depleting resources IS REASON MORE WHY THE AFRICAN CONTINENT SHOULD HAVE A COMMON MARKET. The African continet has enough energy that could have safed the forest cover.

IT IS A BIG SHAME THAT WE ARE SO RICH YET SO POOR.

If i look at the Ivory Coast and Liberia , i see images of VESSELS ONCE LOAD WITH GOODS WITH JUST A FEW MILES BEFORE THEY HIT THE SHORE; CATASTROPE STRUCK. SO WHAT IS LEFT IS THE RECK OF ONCES GREAT PROMISING VESSELS.

Is it? so Kons if from Yero Bawol. where is that about?

madiss
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  18:15:09  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MADIBA

quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

Part of kiangs deforestation was when at one time their MP promised to build an airport and asked people in his constituency to cut down the forest for the project. Huge areas were cut down just for politics. The end result was that it quicken the pace of deforestion and the need to supply the urban areas for fire wood. WOODAYBA, avillage evolved solely to cut down trees for firewood. It is somewhere near SANKANDI VILLAGE NOT FAR FROM KALAGI.



KON! please please are you a baddibunka? I understand that these kiangkas had a go over the baddibunkas many years ago. The anecdote of the bowl and its cover ha ha ha



I AM A JARANKA. SEMBO BE WARA RING KING.
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  18:38:35  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

quote:
Originally posted by MADIBA

quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

Part of kiangs deforestation was when at one time their MP promised to build an airport and asked people in his constituency to cut down the forest for the project. Huge areas were cut down just for politics. The end result was that it quicken the pace of deforestion and the need to supply the urban areas for fire wood. WOODAYBA, avillage evolved solely to cut down trees for firewood. It is somewhere near SANKANDI VILLAGE NOT FAR FROM KALAGI.



KON! please please are you a baddibunka? I understand that these kiangkas had a go over the baddibunkas many years ago. The anecdote of the bowl and its cover ha ha ha



I AM A JARANKA. SEMBO BE WARA RING KING.



SO YOU FOUGHT YOUR COUSINS THE MONKEYS OVER THE FRUITS IN THE WILD?

madiss

Edited by - MADIBA on 14 Jul 2006 18:39:21
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  20:50:44  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
sTOP THAT. yOU KNOW YOU NUIMINKAS ARE OUR BOY BOYS. WE JARANKAS DONT WASTE TIME DEALING WITH YOU. YOU KNOW THAT VERY WELL.
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