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moongarden

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 19 Jun 2006 :  13:58:20  Show Profile Send moongarden a Private Message
i'm trying to sponsor someone with a visitors visa application to the uk but its really hard to find out any information on what the BHC will look for in the application.

i'm guessing they will look to see that the applicant is working and has some reason to return - but what exactly are they looking for?
any ideas please on what information to include to support the application.

thanks

gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 19 Jun 2006 :  17:15:39  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
That is the million dollar question. I've been through it all and I'm stillnot sure what we did wrong and why he was refused..... just the suspicion that he wouldnt return,

Money talks...need to prove a healthy bank balance......even if it is fakedby a bank member of staff for a bribe!
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serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 19 Jun 2006 :  18:13:19  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
GAMBIABEV!!!! You are not suggesting bribery, are you????!!
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LEMON TIME



Afghanistan
1295 Posts

Posted - 19 Jun 2006 :  18:43:32  Show Profile Send LEMON TIME a Private Message
hope your students dont bribe their way up BEV.OPPSS joking

There is no god but Allah
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  00:46:39  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gambiabev

That is the million dollar question. I've been through it all and I'm stillnot sure what we did wrong and why he was refused..... just the suspicion that he wouldnt return,

Money talks...need to prove a healthy bank balance......even if it is fakedby a bank member of staff for a bribe!



Bev You have been caugt this time. Is it negativity or double standards from these proposals. Your integrity is put to question and hope you will put the records straight. Don't pass the buck hidden in your wallet or trying to point fingers against others. Any answer to Somita's question?
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sab



United Kingdom
912 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  01:32:20  Show Profile Send sab a Private Message
Supply two letters – A brief one to your friend giving the invite – if they have employment they will need it to get a leave letter. This leave letter is also required by immigration & should state their employment will be held until their return. It should be submitted with the application.

Your second letter should be addressed to the High Commissioner.
The sponsor letter - is ALSO TO give an account of yourself/selves AND prove to immigration that you know the person/family whom you are inviting.

Introduce yourself, – career – marital status – family –
If you are a married person always use ‘we’ in your letter wherever you can – so the invite is from both. Have both signatures on it.

Explain how you met the person and the family.
Give a little history & facts about the person you are inviting.
Do they have work/studying/helping in a family business/ & have been given leave with employment to return too? YOU must state it.
Are other family members working? or retired? Any students at school? Do you have any involvement? State it.
Have they travelled in other African countries? Give little detail.

Inform them how long you have known the person. (Be very careful the time is not too short) It will give them a rejection stamp in their passport.
Explain the person’s character (not just good – give it some ingredients)
Explain your intentions whilst they are visiting – how you and your family members will help them achieve the best from their visit
Do you have any particular function that is going to happen – make the invite dates around your function and state it in your letter?
Include something that will be beneficial, maybe teaching some computing & digital photography? Or something similar they may be able to use back home as a very small business with help from yourself.

Enclose separate the following information that must be submitted with the application.

Your work at this present time – giving Employers name/address/tel number.
You will need to supply up-to-date six-month salary slips – DELETING bank payment details.
Your accommodation; homeowner/rented/flat – two/three bedroom etc., that is where your guest will be staying. State it.
Proof of your accommodation - by mortgage name & number or local council/reference number & how long you have lived there.
Tell the High Commissioner how long you have been visiting The Gambia – and your travels & experiences within the country.
If you have travelled to The Gambia many times – Photostat your passport immigration stamps & include them.
Photostat envelopes addressed to yourself from The Gambia with readable postage stamp markings on as proof that you have had communication for however length of time.
Photostat telephone bills as proof of communication or e-mails – you don’t have to give the text – just the slip at the top. If you do not have itemised telephone bills you can get copies.

Six months photocopied bank statements – DELETING ALL
ACCOUNT NUMBERS INCLUDING THE International Account Code.
This is to prove that support can be maintained for however long you have stated – although the visitors visa is for six months.
If your funds are low – try borrowing some to boost it up.

You need to state if you are paying for the RETURN ticket if a visa is issued and the company/airline you intend to use. Normally it is Gambia Experience/payment made in UK and ticket to be picked up from their office in Senegambia.
If YOU are providing accommodation plus paying the return ticket and have proof of adequate funds to support the person - then, for a visitors visa they will not have to provide THEIR bank statements.

You definitely need to include a daytime telephone number the High Commissioner’s Office can contact you on. You will receive a call.

All of YOUR documents should be submitted with the visa application & fee.
Only the applicant will be allowed into the High Commissioner grounds.

I hope this is some help to you.
regards, sab.














The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary)
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  01:44:31  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Sab

You should be an immigration officer.
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LEMON TIME



Afghanistan
1295 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  03:33:25  Show Profile Send LEMON TIME a Private Message
You can still be REJECTED after submitting all documents that is been asked,as many people get VIAS and never GO back as suggested.Am i right SAB?umm

There is no god but Allah
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  07:18:27  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Yes you are right. I did all of this. On the rejection letter it said I wasnt at fault . I have provided everything necessary. They just didnt believe that my guide would return home as he is young and was single at the time. He is now married and once he has a child we will try again. ALL he wants to do is study environmental science at university and then go home to help the Gambia.
By the way sab......I was left outside at the gate AND didnt receive a call........
I was so sad and angry for my guide. He was so disappointed.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  07:24:20  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Kobo..I dont know what you mean?

EVERYONE know that in Gambia if you pay extra money you can get anything you want. That is just the way it is. FACT OF LIFE!
As an example I know many Gambians that drive. Only one of them has actually taken the driving test. The rest have just paid a bribe to get the license.

Why is MY intergrity put to question? Surely it is the integrity of all these corrupt Gambian officials??!!!

But that being said...perhaps it is easier to have intergrity on a full stomach? Perhaps if everyone was paid a decent wage they wouldnt need to resort to such corruption......Needs must and all that....
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  07:38:34  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gambiabev

Kobo..I dont know what you mean?

EVERYONE know that in Gambia if you pay extra money you can get anything you want. That is just the way it is. FACT OF LIFE!
As an example I know many Gambians that drive. Only one of them has actually taken the driving test. The rest have just paid a bribe to get the license.

Why is MY intergrity put to question? Surely it is the integrity of all these corrupt Gambian officials??!!!

But that being said...perhaps it is easier to have intergrity on a full stomach? Perhaps if everyone was paid a decent wage they wouldnt need to resort to such corruption......Needs must and all that....



You always appear to be negative and making sweeping remarks against Gambians. Look how Sab dealt with this issue and the facts gathered from them. I expect you to comment and where necessary give constructive critisms. You are exposing yourself with certain remarks thats why Seranata censored you on that! Please don't tarnish the image of the Gambia further as you wouldn't benefit anything from it. Take note that this is not the first time as your conscience, integrity and sincerity has been question in this forum several times! Please react to Seranata's comments and bye!

Edited by - kobo on 20 Jun 2006 07:43:39
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  07:51:45  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
KOBO you need to take off those rose coloured specs. I am just telling it as it is!
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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  10:28:51  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kobo

quote:
Originally posted by gambiabev

That is the million dollar question. I've been through it all and I'm stillnot sure what we did wrong and why he was refused..... just the suspicion that he wouldnt return,

Money talks...need to prove a healthy bank balance......even if it is fakedby a bank member of staff for a bribe!



Bev You have been caugt this time. Is it negativity or double standards from these proposals. Your integrity is put to question and hope you will put the records straight. Don't pass the buck hidden in your wallet or trying to point fingers against others. Any answer to Somita's question?




This time Kobo, I agree with you! I am sorry to say that many Gambians are unable to maintain a bank account of any kind,bearing in mind that transactions appear always to be in cash,I suspect that if you tried to make a transaction with a cheque you would get some strange looks!

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 20 Jun 2006 10:33:12
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Jack



Belgium
384 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  11:05:07  Show Profile Send Jack a Private Message
Kobo,

You can't be serious about what you said to Bev. You talk like Jammeh. Only positive critics are accepted and those who dare to say something negative (but the truth) can go to explain it for the NIA.

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moongarden

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  12:40:15  Show Profile Send moongarden a Private Message
a big thank you Sab - your answer is very comprehensive!

i did the invite letter and included all the information about myself - employer details, wage slips, bank statements (with account details removed), copy of my passport which the form required. the rejection letter says that the high commissioner is satisfied with my side of the documents provided and they verbally advised my guest to bring in bank proofs and various other supporting information which he is collecting.

my guest has just opened a bank account, is collecting a letter from his employer (which is a uk based organisation) and is collecting together any other

it seems a good idea to write a letter to the High Commissioner. i will be able to do that tonight. also we did not include a lot of the other information such as proof of phone calls and emails. so i can fax them over or email them too.

we are wanting to set up a project and have been working on this so i will tell my guest to include the project plans and the financing for that in the application too.

i think that the rejection of the initial application was due to my guest not understanding the amount of information needed to support the application. also the forms are in english and worded badly which is not helpful if english is not your first language.

thanks again for all your replies. we will try again and see what happens.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2006 :  13:28:28  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
His bank account needs to show deposits OVER TIME..so you may want to leave the application a while to stand more chance?
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