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Karamba
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 16 Aug 2011 : 22:27:20
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After betraying and dumping Col Gaddaffi of Libya, Gambia is now seeking ways of milking more money from Libya through the rebel group working on replacing Col Gaddaffi. Is it too early or too late ?
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Aug 2011 : 12:40:25
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| Where did you get this information from Karamba ? |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 17 Aug 2011 : 13:00:47
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| Based on hallucination. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 17 Aug 2011 : 14:15:34
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Gambia TO establish diplomatic ties with Libya’s Transitional Council
Author: Daily Observer
Tuesday, August 16, 2011
The government of The Gambia in renewing her stance in support of the Transitional Council in Benghazi, Libya, as the legitimate representatives of the Libyan people has taken the decision to establish full diplomatic relations with the Transitional National Council of Libya, a media release from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, International Cooperation and Gambians Abroad revealed yesterday.
The release further informs all resident and non-resident diplomatic Missions accredited to the Republic of the Gambia, Representatives of International Organizations operating in The Gambia, and the general public of this new development.
The release reads:
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, International Cooperation and Gambians Abroad wishes to hereby inform all resident and non-resident Diplomatic Missions accredited to the Republic of The Gambia, Representatives of International Organizations operating in The Gambia, and the general public that further to the granting of recognition to the Transitional National Council of Libya in Benghazi as the legitimate representative of the Libyan people in May this year, the Government of the Republic of The Gambia hereby informs that the decision has been taken to establish full diplomatic relations with the Transitional National Council of Libya. It will be recalled that the Republic of The Gambia was the first African country to grant recognition to the Transitional National Council of Libya in Benghazi.
To this end, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, International Cooperation and Gambians Abroad also wishes to indicate that a full and functional diplomatic mission will be established in Benghazi with immediate effect. By the same token, the National Transition Council of Libya will reciprocate accordingly. The government of the Republic of The Gambia and the Transitional National Council of Libya have agreed to engage in full bilateral relations of friendship, brotherhood and cooperation with a view to enhancing closer ties between the peoples of The Gambia and Libya, and to closely work together for the mutual benefit of the two peoples.
Source: Daily Observer |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 17 Aug 2011 : 23:14:39
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| you see turk and co, no one can defend the undefendable.You guys are waisting time. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2011 : 23:39:09
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Janyanfara
Say what? Many nations recognized opposition of Libya. Why is it big deal when Gambia does. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Aug 2011 : 00:45:55
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Originally posted by turk
Janyanfara
Say what? Many nations recognized opposition of Libya. Why is it big deal when Gambia does.
I thought the clown said Karamba's claim is based on hallucination. So why is he changing his tone? Oh I understand; it is called 'caught with pants down'
I haven't laugh this well for 24hr, you know. God bless karamba.
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2011 : 05:02:27
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| Oh another coward-wanna-be is speaking from UK. Political degree from high school. You laugh for nothing. There is nothing to be laughed. I am glad you start engaging me. Will chew you alive in any argument. Make sure don't give silly and ignorance example about government systems this time. The father of the nation, respect your father and there is nothing you cowards can do about it, other than hide and kiss your colonial master on her chic. Your lead is darboe who seek asylum in senegal. Follow your lead. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Aug 2011 : 23:47:51
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The biggest coward is one who not confident in his ability to compete genuinely picked up guns to rob state power. Would this man have been chosen by Gambians to lead even a club of destitudes ?
When people are not confident, they resort to desparate moves. What is worse than taking guns to rob state power ? Can any amount of spin work clean that dirt on the thick skin of the adventurer ? The answer is NO !
Nyarikangbanna, the shadow is exposed with high voltage lighting. We need not look any further. I agree with you. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2011 : 02:57:47
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| One man versus millions of Gambia. Either Jammeh must be very powerful, or Gambians must be very weak. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2011 : 04:17:41
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Turk wrote further:
"One man versus millions of Gambia. Either Jammeh must be very powerful, or Gambians must be very weak."
Very sharply contradictory. just less than few hours ago, it was the majority of Gambia supporting ONE man Jammeh. By turn of the minute hand the ONE (JAMMEH) is being confronted by MILLIONS GAMBIANS.
Going by this alone settles the last nail in the coffin for proper burial of deceit, conceit, and self molest.
It is finished. Let nobody buy any stale food from this stall.
Turk if you need help to get proper view of your terminal contradiction, just shout. Where is Nyarikangbanna ?
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turk
USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2011 : 04:43:58
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The situation is clear and present. Jammeh is supported by overwhelming of people of Gambia. Only some who abandoned the country speak up from out of Gambia via virtual reality tools.
I have proper view, not via newspaper articles, online forums. I actually talk to Gambians in Gambia. And within a few weeks. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 19 Aug 2011 : 13:16:16
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Turk,unless Gambians are PERSONALLY involved in "things" they could not care less,they are happy to live a quiet life and exist as their grandparents lived,they don't want to know what happens at the top of their country,because they realise that they cannot do anything,that's the way that has existed for hundreds of years in Africa,only those who have had the opportunity to experience life outside the arab world and Africa have the ability to choose which way of life they prefer.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2011 : 16:28:39
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Touby - You are starting to understand my point. That is my whole point. That is my theory. Gambians, due to social, economic, cultural and historical realities they are not 'able' to make change via political process. Democracy require two basic things to work. 1. Awareness 2. Participation. How can you expect less than 80 percent functional illiterates to be aware and participate in politics. This would be from 'reading a simple political statement' to 'be part of Political party'.
Here is my question? What percentage of people on this forum are Gambians are living in Gambia. What percentage of forum are Gambians living abroad. And further, what percentage of Gambian women we have here. I am not aware any Gambian women in this forum other than a few, living/being educated in Europe i.e. Eve, sab, Sista Omega/Jambo (Honorary Gambian ladies, they are not even Gambian) who are raised and educated in Europe. So, only 'elite', 'diaspora' and 'wealthy' which are very small percentage of Gambian society trying to achieve the policial/democratic process. Democracy and politics require participation of masses. It is about voting, debate, protests.
In Gambia, who is involved in politics in terms of ideology, solutions, programs, policies.. 1. Lawyers, 2. Business community 3. Lebanese, 4. Professional community 5. Government workers. And they all for different reasons. 1 and 4 are equiped with the skills and they are genuine. 2 and 3 are happy with Government. The only thing they are interested in 'stability' and 'security' so they can run their business. 5 is in politics to protect their status. They mostly support Jammeh, because they know if government changes, most of them lose their job with the new governments' partisan politics.
But many who seem to involve in political process are in business 'tribal' or 'power'. For example, Mandinkas' motivation being in politics are totally tribal. They are the majority, they want to get the power.
Most political movements in Africa is either based on 'tribe' or 'religion' or 'regional' or 'most economic'. Yes, there are some exception like the one in Senegal, people did protested against current president constitutional change, but still Gambia is far from the political/democratic readiness.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
12306 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2011 : 17:07:34
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turk as an observer and non Gambian,I THINK that I understand the average Gambian a little,it shocks me to find that I agree with your words in your last post in this topic . I obviously like you have no idea as to the location and true identity of posters here,no one has,but like you I suspect that your evaluation is correct.
A question, (OK 2 )for you now,why has it taken you such a long time to get to your last post ? Is that just me being simple again, because what you have written last time dosn't reflect your real thoughts and are just words written to reflect what a reasonable bantabarian would wish to read.? I am quite interested because you appear to change your coat many times since you have appeared on Bantaba in Cyberspace. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2011 : 17:29:53
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touby
I think you are being simple and shallow is the reason. I have not said anything different from my last post. Go check my post. This is the main argument I have all of my political post. Gambian problems is not Jammeh. I mean he is a problem but another one will not be much different from him. It is the social, economic and cultural realities are the problem. And the solution is to improve 'wealth' and 'development'. I do not believe in democratic/political process we understand in western world would work for Gambia under today's circumstances. Majority of Gambians support Jammeh, because they don't know any better. They associate him with themselves better than for example Halifa Sallah who is more intellectual, superior in terms of political skills, knowledge. But who cares, they see Jammeh as part of their own. Even the languga Jammeh is using. To understand Halifa Sallah using all the big words, no one has clue when he talks about 'ideology'. But they understand Jammeh.
I mean what did I say different in politics other than what I just said in my last post.
Your speculation is what I have written does not reflect my thoughts is total BS. In fact, it is very ignorant and baseless. My thoughts are consistent. It is just too sophisticated and complex for you to get it. Give me example about inconsistency about my thoughts. Give me specific example. Don't just say it. Support your statement with example and supporting argument.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 19 Aug 2011 17:39:08 |
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