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Santanfara

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Posted - 01 Apr 2011 : 00:12:30
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Soros said, they don't need any condition for Gbagbo to be send packing. Gbagbo's youth leader who organise gangs of youth holligans is on the run. Police offiers have abandon their post and senior military officer seeking refuge. When some stated that, Ouattara is less militant, they were mistaken. Giving peace a chance is never equals to cowardise. However, dictators seems to comfuse the gullible. African should always give peace a chance, but if power hungry killers wish to destroy a country, they should be tackled head on. Incumbency is less becoming a save heaven. It is about access to weapond which is bread and butter now a days. The Gambia army have weaponds but no amunition. We knew about that a long time now. Yahya Jammeh have the keys to the ammunition units. only the state guards have ammunitions.
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22 "And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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terangba

Egypt
225 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 14:05:47
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The world is becoming a small place for dictators; I bet current world events are forcing dictators to think twice. The days of abusing power and impunity are gone. |
God gave men dominion over the beasts and not over his fellow men unless they submit of their own free will. - Napoleon |
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Santanfara

3460 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2011 : 15:20:13
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Teranba Gbagbo is now negotaiting his surrender. Two of his senior generals are negotiating his end. When the AU promised to deal with him, I knew, it will never happen. With monsters like Yahya Jammeh among their ranks, the AU is nothing but a dinausaur infested grouping. The U.N now declare that, the war is over. Gbagbo like other so-called bravado cowards who can only hide behind weapons, however, we always maintain that, the African military will never kill their own people if people come out in numbers. The same thing can happen in any African countries.
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22 "And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kobo

United Kingdom
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kaanibaa

United Kingdom
1169 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 15:55:11
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News releases as "breakingnews" from Aljazeera , france 24 and BBC all report the arrest and handing over of Gbagbo to Oattara forces . I hope this signals the end of the Ivorien crisis, ushering in a new era of peace, social development fostered by national reconciliation among other things.The fact that if indeed it is a fact , Gbagbo was not hunted down and killed but captured alive indicates ; in my opinion that there is some or full legality in the involvement of International Forces who want to or should show better examples in such events of doing things the right way, I mean properly dealing with tyranical rulers by getting them caught and prosecuted in a proper court of law for their various acts of cruelty to their people. Another blow to the vile despotic rulers of our poor motherland Africa, the time for change is here and change for a better life for all too. Hurray!We all heard about the rantings of such rulers against those International involvements and if as i said earlier it is true that Gbagbo has finally been gotten rid of , those mouths would be shut into a permanent position of "mum"!Abanta leh, kasang kenaku ban ban , halla gassi ka galleh kumandang! |
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turk

USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 16:13:03
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kaanibaa
Don't you have concern that, hands of a foreign forces of France in Ivory Coast. Don't you have any concern in terms of independence of a nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe. I think that is a blow of African independence. They still depends on former 'masters'. This was not a new story. Former colonizers always take one side, then change the side later. I can't believe that.
I can see the cheers by many Gambians in bantaba if UK special forces come and remove Jammeh. That is so wrong. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 11 Apr 2011 16:14:38 |
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kaanibaa

United Kingdom
1169 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 17:04:19
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Certainly you cannot draw me into that equation, " getting UK special forces to dislodge Jammeh" come on brother !. I have a right to wish for what I care for most but situations differ. If as you say or suggest the West uses smoke screens to pursue their hidden agenda or more specifically for recolonisation , I leave that to you to discern. I am simply talking about a need for change and the sooner these depotic leaders see that they cannot be allowed to misrule with impunity the better for all including themselves.I how ever am not in a positon to ask for such a move by the said forces, if and when that becomes neccessary , others more or much better placed than me and you ; would decide and at that time nothing that you or I do or say would matter. If on the other hand you prefer to see my people keep on suffering under the strains and stresses of oppressive rule I just want you to know that my preferences are miles apart form yours.Please do not try to rub into my brain those dogmatic theorem of neo-colonialism and recolonisation , as those subjects are for me banal as compared to being subjected to atrocious and barbaric acts of crazed rulers ,of our countries . My heart yearns for freedom for my people and nothing you or any one says about the threats of the hidden real or imagined colonial desires of the west would stop me from yearning for such freedoms as it where.tell me with all honesty what you prefer, leaving the people under their current situation or getting them freed. The assumed cloud of neo-colonialism nothwithstanding i for one would prefer being ruled by the West to being continously mistreated by those who are now ruling in many of our countries and doing so only for their own benefits period.That is the bottom line for me brother cheers and down with all dictators every where!  |
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turk

USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 17:46:44
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Kaanibaa. Thanks for the response. I did not mean you, but expect some cheers.
My preferences without any outside interference, nations must have 'heart' and 'ability' to make change. If they are not ready. Too bad. that is their fault. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Santanfara

3460 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 18:20:59
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The ***** is now finally at peace today. It is up to Gambians to rise up and let it fireeee. There're people who will strategise... Yahya was giving bad advise to Gbagbo, he will be sleepless today. Gbagbo's Generals never wish to die for him. They abandon him for the Rebels, he was treated well. Alhough he was yelled at, Gbagbo seems happy that, the inevitable happens. It is the external pressure from his rich supporters that was his problem. Turk, any how is better to get rid of murderers.
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22 "And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kaanibaa

United Kingdom
1169 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 18:27:56
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Cheers brother and I am surely bothered too, have you no heart at all!, those poor civilians have no weapons and no military training , getting them to rise up without help to oust entrenched dictators is asking them ;in most if not all cases, to go commit suicide. What sort of choice is that eh! If indeed they can get help to oust the bad rulers why should any one deny them that conduit even if it looks like meddling by some super power. At least they ; i mean such super power or body would have to answer to a constituency which keeps them accountable to them ,as opposed to our self proclaimed pharoahs who treat dissent with harsh brutal repression, even up to and including the use of deathly force.i just cannot stomach such idle banter because I have such a heavy heart which is bleeding daily for my people.I am sure you have heard of the drowning man, he would grab at a straw ! The oppressed deserve help that is the truth, and if they are not helped , some one somewhere gets blamed for the negligence one day. |
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turk

USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 22:11:17
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Santa
I would rather to have dictator rather than getting help from outside. Ivory Coast will pay the prices to France for the service. France would not help them without nothing.
For Gambian context. Jammeh has legitimate support. If you are asking the rise up, here is the question, what happens to the supporters of Jammeh?
Looks like africans do not get lesson from the past. They rely on their former colonizers. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 12 Apr 2011 13:01:40 |
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Karamba

United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 22:41:42
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quote: Originally posted by Santanfara
The ***** is now finally at peace today. It is up to Gambians to rise up and let it fireeee. There're people who will strategise... Yahya was giving bad advise to Gbagbo, he will be sleepless today. Gbagbo's Generals never wish to die for him. They abandon him for the Rebels, he was treated well. Alhough he was yelled at, Gbagbo seems happy that, the inevitable happens. It is the external pressure from his rich supporters that was his problem. Turk, any how is better to get rid of murderers.
Santanfara, Yaya will no doubt wet his pants upon hearing this beautiful news. He will have to fasten his belts for rough landing.
Year 2011 is certainly big trial for wicked people like Yaya Jammeh. No chance for their perpetuation. |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 19:33:15
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quote: Originally posted by turk
Looks like africans do not get lesson from the past. They rely on their former colonizers.
Is this the turkish perception, or is it just our own turk on the rampage...as usual |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
Edited by - Janko on 12 Apr 2011 19:41:43 |
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turk

USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 19:46:13
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Janko
I can't speak for turkish. It is mine. What is new story here. Civil war. The rulers changed. Colonizer involved. They supported one side. As usual. They invited former colonizer to sovereign nation. And France is very nice people, they just like to help. I do have perceptions based on my observations. I have not seen any event that my perception is different in this event. Do you? Tell me why my perception is wrong. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 12 Apr 2011 19:51:52 |
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toubab1020

12311 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 19:49:56
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Let me see,how about coffee beans and coco ,there is a world shortage of both,if I remember rightly Ivory coast has these,any OIL in Ivory Coast ? 
quote: Originally posted by turk
"France would not help them without nothing."
Santa
I would rather to have dictator rather than getting help from outside. Ivory Coast will pay the prices to France for the service. France would not help them without nothing.
For Gambian context. Jammeh has legitimate support. If you are asking the rise up, here is the question, what happens to the supporters of Jammeh?
Looks like africans do not get lesson from the past. They rely on their former colonizers.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020

12311 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 19:56:22
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Get real turk, it's today not long past,get your act together,just like all of Africa is happy and prosperous now,enough food no starvation blindness,plenty of jobs every one has a new Benz many good nations in Africa now,Gambia No problem.
quote: Originally posted by turk
kaanibaa
Don't you have concern that, hands of a foreign forces of France in Ivory Coast. Don't you have any concern in terms of independence of a nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe. I think that is a blow of African independence. They still depends on former 'masters'. This was not a new story. Former colonizers always take one side, then change the side later. I can't believe that.
I can see the cheers by many Gambians in bantaba if UK special forces come and remove Jammeh. That is so wrong.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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