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Nyarikangbanna
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 Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 11:30:07
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The UDP-USA branch wishes to address the issue of internal democracy within the United Democratic Party (UDP) in general and the matter of the leadership of lawyer Ousainu Darboe in particular. Both yourself as proprietor of Freedom Newspaper and some of your occasional online radio commentators have repeatedly insinuated that the lawfully constituted leadership of the party duly elected by the nationwide representatives of its members are unworthy of the very people who elected them. In almost all cases you and the other critics cite the idea that after several runs as party leader, Mr. Darboe must simply give way to some other person as an act of democratic affirmation or that he is essentially not confrontational enough to your liking. Both of these, on the surface, sound like reasonable observations from the standpoint of someone who is neither affiliated with nor supports the UDP and its elected leaders and are hence ordinary critics.Such criticism, if done constructively, is expected in the kind of plural democracy we all aspire to. However it is a profound act of presumptuousness for you and the critics to insist on substituting the considered and lawful judgments of party members who sacrifice their life, limb, time, and resources with your notions of what you claim to be in the best interest of the UDP and by extension the Gambia. How is it reasonable for you or any critic to believe that you know better than Tata Camara of Georgetown who has been with the party from the very start and has represented the party in every congress, meeting, and rally and was arrested, tortured, and imprisoned in the pursuit of the principles of the party? The same can be said of Aja sukaina Kah, Mariam Denton, Femi Peters--who just did a stint in Prison, brave folks in Kiang, Jarra, and Shyngle Nyassi to name a few. This is UDP. They live in every town, village and street corner from Koina to Kartong. They are not relatives of Ousainu Darboe and they owe him nothing. He has given them nothing other than a sincere commitment to sacrifice and stand with them in their legitimate and honorable fight against a bloody tyrant.
Even if you don't like lawyer Darboe, the right thing to do is to respect the people and the process that has conferred leadership on him. You must disabuse yourself of the silly idea that somehow having Ousainu Darboe run for public office is a perennial personal craving that he has or that his colleagues in the struggle are ignorant of what is best for them, their organization or the country and their whole effort is geared toward catering to the fanciful ambition of one individual. It is the same warped logic that is applied to PDOIS and it's founding members with similar assortment of critics demanding that Mr. Sallah and the rest of the honorable men and women who have dedicated decades of their lives to public service and trying to help in the germination of democracy are somehow inadequate to the tasks they have selflessly dedicated themselves to.
Lazy and uncommitted to anything other than themselves and the narrow agenda's they ceaselessly pursue, the same critics will neither join and use the internal procedures of the parties to bring about the reform they claim to want nor would they seek to rally like minded people to form parties or civic organizations that would better reflect their vision for the country they purport to love more than the people that are actually on the ground as foot soldiers. No one exemplifies this insidious tendency more than one of your frequent commentators Mr. Falai Baldeh. He claims and you present him as a UDP member and from his perch in New York he consistently tries to delegitimize the UDP leader and the overall direction of the party. He demands leadership change but when that very occasion presented itself last year in the party congress held in Soma, this self described advocate for change did not bother to participate in the very process that is designed to elect new leaders. The reason is that participating in the democratic process requires effort, time and resources; something Mr. Baldeh is unwilling to invest in to help realize the goals he claims to believe in. But calling into a toll free number to a radio program from New York City to offer insidious opinion not supported by any facts is both easy and attractive to the foolhardy.
The UDP welcomes criticisms of its vision for the Gambia from anyone who takes interest in the country and the challenges it faces. Additionally, Ousainu Darboe or any member of the party leadership like all other public officials are not beyond criticism nor do they assume to be able to win the heart and admiration of every Gambian. However, it is patently immoral to conflate understandable differences in approach one may have with a particular political party with wrong and manufactured premises about political parties and their chosen leaders. If any Gambian does not like a political party then look for one you can support and if none of the available ones are good enough for you work towards forming one to your liking and vision. If the political process is not your cup of tea, work with civil society and try to do good that way. The one thing that helps no one is the unhealthy pre-occupation with denigrating the efforts of the good Gambians trying to do Something. These issues in Gambia will take the efforts of all of us to tackle them.
We will be happy to have a civil on-air discussion with Falai or anyone who wishes to discuss any or all of the matters raised in this release if you would indulge us. We believe if you moderate such a discussion, your audience would have better understanding of internal UDP democratic procedures as well as address any issues that critics of the party may have. Then the people can make up their own minds armed with all of the facts.
Sincerely,
UDP-USA
Lamin R. Darboe
Chairman
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Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 23 Jan 2011 11:42:12 |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 16:55:10
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Mr. Lamin
Every time any of the UDP official open their mouth, they BS. Let me see what the Mr.Lamin is saying…
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Such criticism, if done constructively, is expected in the kind of plural democracy we all aspire to
Oh, constructive criticism! What planet are you living Mr. Lamin? Do you make constructive criticism about the president of the Gambia? It is ok UDP to insult, make destructive criticism, assassinate the character of the current president of the Gambia, but others have to be ‘constructive’, ‘Pollyanna' like criticism about UDP leader, your grandfather Darboe.
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However it is a profound act of presumptuousness for you and the critics to insist on substituting the considered and lawful judgments of party members who sacrifice their life, limb, time, and resources with your notions of what you claim to be in the best interest of the UDP and by extension the Gambia. How is it reasonable for you or any critic to believe that you know better than Tata Camara of Georgetown who has been with the party from the very start and has represented the party in every congress, meeting, and rally and was arrested, tortured, and imprisoned in the pursuit of the principles of the party?
Even if you don't like lawyer Darboe, the right thing to do is to respect the people and the process that has conferred leadership on him.
Based on your logic, it is unreasonable to make any criticism for Jammeh who was elected by the majority of people and was a candidate of APRC party members who are citizens of the Gambia and supporting their president. You have different standards for the ‘elected leader, Darboe’ and ‘elected president, Jammeh’. Darboe is elected by the righteous members of UDP members, but Jammeh was not elected by the righteous voters of Gambian citizens? Why Darbou and UDP members deserve respect but Jammeh and its supporter do not?
Do you think opposition party figures any less public figures than the president. They can be treated differently because they don't hold a public office. Let me break to news for you. Political party leaders are public figure and they have responsibilities and accountability to the public as much as the president. Their public duty is to oppose if they are not government. Seems like you have no clue about how democracy works. Opposition parties are public institutions and they can't get away from the evaluation.... They are not private pet lover associations...
This is politics OK. It is part of the democratic process to put the ‘leaders’ on the public eye and evaluate their personalities, leadership skill, knowledge, political intelligence, treats, skills… It looks like you don’t have confidence in Darbou and you are asking for mercy from the public. Sounds like it is not a good situation to be in.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 23 Jan 2011 17:10:49 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 17:14:15
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Turk WE KNEW YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB FOR /JAMMEHAPRC IN THE ON-LINE MEDIA WAR; NEVER EDINING WRANGLING & WRESTLING!
HOWEVER WAA JUWARA SAID IS SOMETHING THAT SOUND'S LOGIC AND A PRAGMATIC VIEW AS QUOTED; “I think the idea of just being in the opposition is not only to win, all the time. That’s not the essence. When you have a strong opposition, it also influences the policies and actions of the ruling party, and we had that opportunity loud and clear, because we had a formidable force when we came together. But because of our individual ambitions, which led to the betrayal of the hopes and aspirations of the majority of our supporters, we dashed any meaningful hope that we will ever come together again and the people are going to support us."
Related Bantaba Gambian politics topic The opposition has No chance- Waa Juwara under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10285 |
Edited by - kobo on 23 Jan 2011 17:17:35 |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 17:22:30
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Thanks kobo. Next time I will be in Gambia, I was told that I will be given honorary citizenship.
p.s. I like the quote you are referring. Please forward this to UDP so they may learn something. But it could offend them because it is not 'polite'. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 23 Jan 2011 17:24:26 |
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Moe
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 19:50:50
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Turk I think they have seen it already,Polite or not Bantaba has no reservations. This is the very reason "I DO NOT TRUST THE OPPOSITION". They have double standards and very untrustworthy......................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by turk
Mr. Lamin
Every time any of the UDP official open their mouth, they BS. Let me see what the Mr.Lamin is saying…
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Such criticism, if done constructively, is expected in the kind of plural democracy we all aspire to
Oh, constructive criticism! What planet are you living Mr. Lamin? Do you make constructive criticism about the president of the Gambia? It is ok UDP to insult, make destructive criticism, assassinate the character of the current president of the Gambia, but others have to be ‘constructive’, ‘Pollyanna' like criticism about UDP leader, your grandfather Darboe.
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However it is a profound act of presumptuousness for you and the critics to insist on substituting the considered and lawful judgments of party members who sacrifice their life, limb, time, and resources with your notions of what you claim to be in the best interest of the UDP and by extension the Gambia. How is it reasonable for you or any critic to believe that you know better than Tata Camara of Georgetown who has been with the party from the very start and has represented the party in every congress, meeting, and rally and was arrested, tortured, and imprisoned in the pursuit of the principles of the party?
Even if you don't like lawyer Darboe, the right thing to do is to respect the people and the process that has conferred leadership on him.
Based on your logic, it is unreasonable to make any criticism for Jammeh who was elected by the majority of people and was a candidate of APRC party members who are citizens of the Gambia and supporting their president. You have different standards for the ‘elected leader, Darboe’ and ‘elected president, Jammeh’. Darboe is elected by the righteous members of UDP members, but Jammeh was not elected by the righteous voters of Gambian citizens? Why Darbou and UDP members deserve respect but Jammeh and its supporter do not?
Do you think opposition party figures any less public figures than the president. They can be treated differently because they don't hold a public office. Let me break to news for you. Political party leaders are public figure and they have responsibilities and accountability to the public as much as the president. Their public duty is to oppose if they are not government. Seems like you have no clue about how democracy works. Opposition parties are public institutions and they can't get away from the evaluation.... They are not private pet lover associations...
This is politics OK. It is part of the democratic process to put the ‘leaders’ on the public eye and evaluate their personalities, leadership skill, knowledge, political intelligence, treats, skills… It looks like you don’t have confidence in Darbou and you are asking for mercy from the public. Sounds like it is not a good situation to be in.
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 23 Jan 2011 19:52:44 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 22:05:40
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TURK! DEFINITELY YOU SAW THE LOOPHOLES IN THE CRITERIA & SPOTS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO ALL; IN THAT ARTICLE (ABOVE) YOU REVIEWED TO HIGHLIGHT FEW POINTS! ALL THE SLOTS FOR UDP ARE BINGO AND APPLICABLE TO ALL OPPOSITION POLITICAL PARTIES. EVEN IN SOME INSTANCES APRC! HOW MANY TIMES HALIFA, SAM SARR & OTHERS WERE ARRESTED, DETAINED & IMPRISONED? YET SOME ARROGANT UDP MILITANTS ALWAYS TRY TO OSTRACISE & CASTIGATE THEM WITH ALL KINDS OF TAGS; "FAILURES", "DISINGENUOUS", "AYATALLAH", "COMMUNIST", UNFIT TO LEAD OR ALL SORTS OF NONSENSE; IN THEIR EYES & OWN CRITERIA.
WRITER EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED THAT FACT AS QUOTED; "Even if you don't like lawyer Darboe, the right thing to do is to respect the people and the process that has conferred leadership on him. You must disabuse yourself of the silly idea that somehow having Ousainu Darboe run for public office is a perennial personal craving that he has or that his colleagues in the struggle are ignorant of what is best for them, their organization or the country and their whole effort is geared toward catering to the fanciful ambition of one individual. It is the same warped logic that is applied to PDOIS and it's founding members with similar assortment of critics demanding that Mr. Sallah and the rest of the honorable men and women who have dedicated decades of their lives to public service and trying to help in the germination of democracy are somehow inadequate to the tasks they have selflessly dedicated themselves to."
NO WONDER THE ARROGANT GROUP ARE CONSIDERED ULTRA-NATIONALIST IN THEIR MILITANCY & ADVOCACY. I THINK THEY HAVE STABBED THEMSELVES UNKNOWINGLY! ITS JUST MANIFESTATION OF SHEER DELUSION TO DESPERATELY HOODWINK ALL ON BOARD UDP WAGON  |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 02:31:06
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 03:35:10
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toubab
Do not do that, senegambia has no sense of humor, he will start bullying you... |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Senegambia
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 09:29:53
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What are you talking about, Turk? Not me I hope 
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toubab
Do not do that, senegambia has no sense of humor, he will start bullying you...
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toubab1020
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 11:02:14
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Boys, please, I do try to inject at times what I think is a bit of humour, please don't take things too seriously,politics is a game.........right ? |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 14:12:27
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I am talking about you senegambia.
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zzzzzzzzz
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Originally posted by senegambia
Stop posting garbage and show some respect for Bantaba! Just to remind you; You are not alone in here. If you don't have anything to say simply Shut up. If you are restless then read a book or something. Don't just hijack every topic to such low standards. I hope admin is taking note.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Senegambia
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 21:11:16
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OK, you are in trouble Turk,,,,,, again!
I wrote that because I didnt know you. I would never write something like that now because now I find you cool. |
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kobo
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turk
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Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 00:45:06
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| Thanks... |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 13:28:41
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Latest reports from Freedom on-line newspaper;
1. Editorial: UDP USA Chapter Misled Freedom Radio Audience! under http://www.freedomnewspaper.com/Homepage/tabid/36/mid/367/newsid367/5910/Editorial--UDP-USA-Chapter-Misled-Freedom-Radio-Audience/Default.aspx
VERY SERIOUS NOTES QUOTED:"Banjul, The Gambia—The opposition United Democratic Party, (UDP) under the leadership of Lawyer Ousainou Darboe, needs serious coordination, and image building, otherwise the party, which is Gambia’s bastion of hope in terms of effecting political change— is likely to disappear from the political spectrum if concerted efforts are not put in place to salvage the divided political party.
The party’s overseas supporters, most importantly its United States Chapter, could partly be blamed for this division because of their lack of democratic tolerance, and respect for free speech. The mixed messages being peddled by the UDP affiliate Chapter here in the US, without the prior sanctioning, or approval of the party’s main parent body in The Gambia, would ultimately have serious ramifications on the UDP’s support base abroad. " TO SIR DAFFEH ALIAS NYARINKANGBANNA & UDP UK WITH LOVE!
2. Gambia: Atlanta APRC Says "THE OPPOSITION IS IN TOTAL DISARRAY"! under http://www.freedomnewspaper.com/Homepage/tabid/36/mid/367/newsid367/5909/Gambia-Atlanta-APRC-Says-THE-OPPOSITION-IS--IN-TOTAL-DISARRAY/Default.aspx |
Edited by - kobo on 25 Jan 2011 13:57:26 |
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