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toubab1020
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 Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 20:25:01
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I appriciate your point of view, however I was commenting on the posting by Somita in which he or she wrote;
"Good idea, but first we must define what is our values as "Gambians" because whether you know it or not, today this term can be interpreted in many different ways ....
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Originally posted by Karamba
Toubab,
The current predicament of Gambia transcends ethnicity and narrow strips of social grouping.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Karamba
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Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 20:31:37
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Most certainly, Somita holds real good points. This bit is only another observation taking readings from the same picture. Your points are equally valued Toubab1020. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 22:16:58
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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somita
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Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 23:01:58
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| Toubab1020, we are probably singing from the same prayer book ... if i should use this anology. You mention religion on your last posting, this is exactly my point, religions leaders over the past couple of years have allowed religion to be used as a political tool. They have strayed from being the holders of "moral high ground" and have become politicians themselves. This of course have a huge repercusion for years to come. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 23:38:33
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" this is exactly my point, religions leaders over the past couple of years have allowed religion to be used as a political tool"
I think that this has occoured during a much longer time scale than "the past couple of years" due to the erosion of absolute power which ALL religious leaders used to enjoy for many a century in bygone times when "government" as it is practiced today in most places comprises of those who the people have elected from amongst themselves to represent them and to make laws and tell the people how to behave.
Religion in the past was a closed self governing organisation who elected their leaders from those who were part of that organisation.
ALL religions that I can think of believe in a supreme being who should be reviered and venerated as not being of this earth,there are religions who venerate the earth itself, the moon,the sky,but all believe (I think) that everything was created by a being who was supreme.
I have not studied religions so please do not ask me to explain or give examples, I cannot because I do not know,these are my own opinions and I have no intention at all of being contraversial or critising anybody or any religion.I think that religion (or no religion)is a very personal choice that everyone can make for themselves when their minds are fully developed.
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Karamba
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 00:53:38
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Originally posted by somita
Toubab1020, we are probably singing from the same prayer book ... if i should use this anology. You mention religion on your last posting, this is exactly my point, religions leaders over the past couple of years have allowed religion to be used as a political tool. They have strayed from being the holders of "moral high ground" and have become politicians themselves. This of course have a huge repercusion for years to come.
This observation invites other concerns about how different interest groups have contributed to making Gambia what it is today. Civil servants, police, lawyers, teachers, imams, doctors, nurses, soldiers. All these and many others have either kept their quiet watching Gambia sink or stay enjoying. It is hard to remember any groups flatly challenging what we have all seen happen in Gambia over the years.
The big question now is why this time that one important player group like lawyers will choose speaking out or acting in defiance. Even with that, they only care about a single situation. It does not look like they care about the multitude.
While the Imams openly paid allegiance to the reign of trouble in Gambia, lawyers on their part seemed not bothered. If I understand what the author of this thread Bayang is seeking to expose, it is the reluctance or refusal of our lawyers challenging the wrongs. That is just my view. He may have other reasons. My observation is based what Santafara imported from Freedom.
It looks there is occasion to take the challenge further.
May be some other groups will begin acting. |
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somita
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 11:01:21
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| Karamba, in an earlier posting, i commented that its unfair to target the Lawyers because in the end all Gambians, irrespective of profession have a moral obligation to stand up and be counted for good, however by virtue to the lawyers possition its my view that Lawyers have not just a moral obligation to stand up for good, but also to do what is good. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 11:21:41
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It is probable that Lawyers are most likely to be able to"stand up for good, but also to do what is good." (provided they don't charge a "fee" of course  )
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Originally posted by somita
Karamba, in an earlier posting, i commented that its unfair to target the Lawyers because in the end all Gambians, irrespective of profession have a moral obligation to stand up and be counted for good, however by virtue to the lawyers possition its my view that Lawyers have not just a moral obligation to stand up for good, but also to do what is good.
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Karamba
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Posted - 15 Oct 2011 : 22:22:30
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| Going by what just came from Freedom website, it goes like Moses Richards is finally let off the legal hook by the iron commanding hands of Chief in-Justice Yaya Jammeh. Will Richards then surrender his wigs to retire from deciding cases on merits of justice. |
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kobo
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toubab1020
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Posted - 16 Oct 2011 : 12:00:32
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Moses Richards is an honest lawyer with much experience,do you really think that he would hang up his wig go to the bush and make farming? He may decide that some of the stuff has developed to cloak the legal profession "could do better"
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Originally posted by Karamba
Going by what just came from Freedom website, it goes like Moses Richards is finally let off the legal hook by the iron commanding hands of Chief in-Justice Yaya Jammeh. Will Richards then surrender his wigs to retire from deciding cases on merits of justice.
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kobo
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Posted - 16 Oct 2011 : 15:26:52
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MAAFANTA.COM WITH INTERESTING OPINIONS;
1. Moses Richards: The betrayal and the consequence By Mathew K. Jallow
2. RICHARDS AND MBOGE ARE VICTIMS, AND NOT VILLAINS.By Princess Jainaba
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"Whose desire is it not to be seen as heroic or honourable. I can imagine fear in people’s eyes, terror in their hearts and nostalgia in their gut at the mention of mile two. Yes! People are killed, turned into invalids, and tortured at mile two. People stay in cells that leak water all summer. Not every man is cut out to be a Halipha Sallah or a Shingle Niassey nor is every woman your Fatou Jaw Manneh or Duta Kamaso. There is a notion call the “survival mode” in Gambia and for better or for worst people do employ it based on their personal choice.
There is a major disconnect between people in the Diaspora and those facing Yaya’s tyranny in Gambia. An example is the forthcoming elections. Whilst the debate is heated here in the Diaspora, you talk to people back home in Gambia about the elections and they tell you are there is no election activity going on here.
Unless and until Gambian get over their complacency and apathy, we cannot expect any major change. We cannot expect a few to carry the burden and be made into scape goats just like the school children in 2000 and their deaths are still not avenged for.
Lawyers interpret the law and they are not the law. They operate within a system and we have to call this travesty, a systems failure and not an individual personal failure.
We would have preferred it if these two men become the catalyst for change that we all desire. But truth is, they are not so let’s move on."" Princess Jainaba with Maafanta.com
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kobo
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