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Screensize: 640 x 480 800 x 600 1024 x 768 1280 x 1024 UserName: Password: Format Mode: Basic  Help  Prompt  Format: Videos: Font Andale Mono Arial Arial Black Book Antiqua Century Gothic Comic Sans MS Courier New Georgia Impact Lucida Console Script MT Bold Stencil Tahoma Times New Roman Trebuchet MS Verdana   Size 1 2 3 4 5 6   Color Black Red Yellow Pink Green Orange Purple Blue Beige Brown Teal Navy Maroon LimeGreen Message: * HTML is OFF * Forum Code is ON Smilies [quote][i]Originally posted by Momodou[/i] [br]GAMBIA-L Digest 93 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Casamance. by Ebrima Jawara <E.Jawara@reading.ac.uk> 2) Re: Darboe visits Atlanta by rdinvest@highway1.com 3) Re: Attempted Coup in Zambia??? by Adama Cham <A.Cham@reading.ac.uk> 4) new article on the Gambia by "Jobst Münderlein" <joppl@hotmail.com> 5) RE: new article on the Gambia by BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> 6) New Member by SANG1220@aol.com 7) New member by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 8) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> 9) Re: New Member by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> 10) Re: Darboe visits Atlanta by Abdou O Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 11) (Fwd) REVIEW GAMBIA-L by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 12) Re: (Fwd) REVIEW GAMBIA-L by "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> 13) Re: Darboe's meeting in Atlanta by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 14) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Nyang Njie <st0021@student-mail.jsu.edu> 15) Gala (fwd) by "D. Proctor" <proctord@u.washington.edu> 16) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 17) Re: Darboe's meeting in Atlanta by "Katim S. Touray" <dekat@itis.com> 18) Re: new article on the Gambia by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 19) 5 Faculty Positions at Georgia State Univ, Atlanta (fxd> (fwd) by "N'Deye Marie N'Jie" <njie.1@osu.edu> 20) AFRICAN CELLULAR RESOURCE LAUNCHES LIVE CHATROOM FACILITY by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 21) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> 22) cute joke by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 23) AFRICAN CELLULAR RESOURCE LAUNCHES LIVE CHATROOM FACILITY by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 24) Re: Darboe's meeting in Atlanta by "Pa-Mambuna O. Bojang" <paomar@iglou.com> 25) Aminata Y. Sallah - New Member by "hamza mohammed" <hamza@mail.wdn.com> 26) RE: Darboe's meeting in Atlanta by BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> 27) RE: This Madness In Africa [Editorial] by BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> 28) The STATISTICS corner (fwd) by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 29) Amnesty Secretary General of S/Leone in hiding by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 30) ** Job opportunity in South Africa *** (fwd) by "N'Deye Marie N'Jie" <njie.1@osu.edu> 31) on the move by Gabriel Ndow <gndow@spelman.edu> 32) Re: on the move by "Bassirou Dodou Drammeh" <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> 33) Tribute to KEEKOTOO MAANE (Fwd.) by Abdou O Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 34) Re: Tribute to KEEKOTOO MAANE (Fwd.) by Raye Sosseh <gt8065b@prism.gatech.edu> 35) Reply to "Give a book" (fwd) by Ebrima Sall <ebrima.sall@yale.edu> 36) FELLOWSHIPS FOR THE STUDY OF INTERNATIONAL MIGRATION TO THE UNITED STATES (fwd) by Ebrima Sall <ebrima.sall@yale.edu> 37) Re: Tribute to KEEKOTOO MAANE (Fwd.) by "BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH" <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> 38) Re: Reply to "Give a book" (fwd) by "BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH" <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> 39) Re: on the move by "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> 40) Re: on the move by "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> 41) Please add a friend by MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <m.gassama@swipnet.se> 42) Still the Dark Continent? by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 43) Re: Please add a friend by Sarian Loum <Sarian.Loum@Corp.Sun.COM> 44) introducing myself by "seedy kanyi" <seedyk@hotmail.com> 45) New member by "alieu badara" <alieu@hotmail.com> 46) Re: Africa in the fast-globalizing world economy by "seedy kanyi" <seedyk@hotmail.com> 47) RE: new article on the Gambia by "Jobst Münderlein" <joppl@hotmail.com> 48) new member by "Gassamaba omar" <kassama@hotmail.com> 49) new member by "Gassamaba omar" <kassama@hotmail.com> 50) Re: new member by "Gassamaba omar" <kassama@hotmail.com> 51) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by "NJAGA JAGNE" <jagnen25@hotmail.com> 52) Re: New member by Sarian Loum <Sarian.Loum@Corp.Sun.COM> 53) Asst. Professor Positions in Environmental Science Related Fields (fwd) by "N'Deye Marie N'Jie" <njie.1@osu.edu> 54) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> 55) Subscribe Gambia-l Aliou Jobe by Ebrima Sall <ebrima.sall@yale.edu> 56) ASA Meeting, Columbus, Ohio by Ebrima Sall <ebrima.sall@yale.edu> 57) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by MJagana@aol.com 58) HELP! List Managers by Abdou O Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 59) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by "BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH" <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> 60) Re: ASA Meeting, Columbus, Ohio by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> 61) subscribe gam-l by "Babou Njie" <babounjie@hotmail.com> 62) introduction by "Babou Njie" <babounjie@hotmail.com> 63) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> 64) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> 65) Re: New members by CAMARA BAKEBBA <cb714@greenwich.ac.uk> 66) add new member by Sukai Gaye <sg125909@gwmail.kysu.edu> 67) Scholarship for Sub-Saharan African by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 68) Benin City Chief in a Prostitution Scandal by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 69) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Nyang Njie <st0021@student-mail.jsu.edu> 70) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by "jgr@commit.gm" <gambia-l@commit.gm> 71) Is this GOOD love...or BAD luck? by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 72) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by "BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH" <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> 73) QUOTE OF THE DAY by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 74) Re: new article on the Gambia by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 75) How Smart Are You? by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 76) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <m.gassama@swipnet.se> 77) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 78) Re: ASA Meeting, Columbus, Ohio by "N'Deye Marie N'Jie" <njie.1@osu.edu> 79) Re: Africa in the fast-globalizing world economy by Ebrima Sall <ebrima.sall@yale.edu> 80) Re: ASA Meeting, Columbus, Ohio by Ebrima Sall <ebrima.sall@yale.edu> 81) Re: Benin City Chief in a Prostitution Scandal by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> 82) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> 83) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> 84) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> 85) Re: HELP! List Managers by Sarian Loum <Sarian.Loum@Corp.Sun.COM> 86) New Member by Sarian Loum <Sarian.Loum@Corp.Sun.COM> 87) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by "jgr@commit.gm" <gambia-l@commit.gm> 88) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 89) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 90) Re: Benin City Chief in a Prostitution Scandal by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 91) Membership to The List by BAKSAWA@aol.com 92) Re: Membership to The List by Fafa Sanyang <fsanyang@is2.dal.ca> 93) No Subject by EStew68064@aol.com 94) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> 95) Re: Benin City Chief in a Prostitution Scandal by "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> 96) Are some African women feminists? by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 97) TANGO by Andy Lyons <alyons@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu> 98) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Nyang Njie <st0021@student-mail.jsu.edu> 99) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> 100) what to do with that attachment? by "Jobst Münderlein" <joppl@hotmail.com> 101) Ethnicity and Identity by Joanna Azzi <ja132509@gwmail.kysu.edu> 102) Are some African women feminists? by Ebrima Jawara <E.Jawara@reading.ac.uk> 103) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Mamadou S Jallow <bala@algonet.se> 104) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <m.gassama@swipnet.se> 105) Re: introduction by MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <m.gassama@swipnet.se> 106) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> 107) Re: Ethnicity and Identity by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> 108) investment in Africa by Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 13:26:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Ebrima Jawara <E.Jawara@reading.ac.uk> To: Gambia Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Casamance. Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971102131030.3649E-100000@suma3.reading.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Latjor, You are absolutely right. One has to study war not only in the framework of political history, but in the framework of economic, social and cultural history as well. In order to describe how wars were fought, one has to have some idea of what they were fought about. I do believe that the Art of War, though written 2500 years ago is still applicable today. Sun Tzu was obligatory reading in the Soviet political-military hierachy, and still is in the CIS. It is the source of all Mao Tse-Tung's strategic and tactical doctrine. The Art of War shows how to take the initiative and comabt the enemy - any enemy - poverty, hunger, illetracy... "The purpose of War is peace." I asked where the MFDC in Casamance were getting their finance. In my humble opinion, I said the war would drag on as long as both parties had access to funds, weapons and men. It seems the Senegalese Government is driving to sever the main source of the MFDC's income, fruits. The MFDC is sustaining high casualties trying to regain lost territory. Is the end near? Yours humbly, EBS. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 09:06:13 -0500 From: rdinvest@highway1.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Darboe visits Atlanta Message-ID: <345C88D3.FD0FD1A4@highway1.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I talked to Darboe and Ousman Sallah last week and while in Washington DC they met with a number of Senators about the current situation in The Gambia. They discussed the presence of Libyans and Cuban military personnel and their role in bolstering Yahya Jammeh. They also discussed the military hardware purchases and the misuse of the Tawainese loan of $35 million that was supposed to be utilized for medical and humanatarian needs. Ron Matherson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:41:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Adama Cham <A.Cham@reading.ac.uk> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Attempted Coup in Zambia??? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971102153132.29624B-100000@suma3.reading.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Brother, Thank you for the message. It is sad that solder in Africa will use the barrel of the gun to rule us. This is a sad situation. Thanks A.B.C ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 09:02:20 PST From: "Jobst Münderlein" <joppl@hotmail.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: new article on the Gambia Message-ID: <19971102170220.29603.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain this is just a hint to where all those that are interested can find the latest scientific article on the GAmbia: Wiseman, John A., 1997, Letting Yahya JAmmeh off lightly?, in: Peview of Africasn Political Economy, No. 72, P. 265-276 I wonder what the reactions will be. Since I am writing my diploma thesis on the GAmbia too, I would love to learn about your views. The one part that surprised me was the one one the unofficial version of the presidential election results in disadvantage of JAmmeh - that simply is not true, as far as I am concerned. Peace. Jobst ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 22:50:54 +0300 From: BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> To: "'gambia-l@u.washington.edu'" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: RE: new article on the Gambia Message-ID: <01BCE7E1.D35A4E60@ddhm.qatar.net.qa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCE7E1.D37BE020" ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCE7E1.D37BE020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jobst, I tried hard but could not understand what you are trying to say.So,if you don't mind,could you explain! Regards Basss! -----Original Message----- From: Jobst Munderlein [SMTP:joppl@hotmail.com] Sent: 02 NIE, 1418 08:02 a To: GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List Subject: new article on the Gambia this is just a hint to where all those that are interested can find the latest scientific article on the GAmbia: Wiseman, John A., 1997, Letting Yahya JAmmeh off lightly?, in: Peview of Africasn Political Economy, No. 72, P. 265-276 I wonder what the reactions will be. Since I am writing my diploma thesis on the GAmbia too, I would love to learn about your views. The one part that surprised me was the one one the unofficial version of the presidential election results in disadvantage of JAmmeh - that simply is not true, as far as I am concerned. Peace. Jobst ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 17:52:36 -0500 (EST) From: SANG1220@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: SANG1220@aol.com Subject: New Member Message-ID: <971102164252_1547283544@emout08.mail.aol.com> Joe Jassey, welcome to the bantaba, are you the Joe Jassey that attended St Augustine's with the likes of Habib Diab and myself ?, If you are, please extend my greetings to Andrew Dacosta and Henry Jammeh. Thanks Daddy Sang(Emmanuel NDow) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 16:39:52 -0800 (PST) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: New member Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.971102163818.3907C-100000@saul2.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Alasana Demba has been added to the list. We welcome him and will be looking forward for his introduction and contributions. Thanks Tony Loum ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 22:54:17 -0800 From: Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: "c:netscapeMAILSent"@smtp3.erols.com Subject: Re: Ethnicity and Identity Message-ID: <345D7519.53EC@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Modou Jallow wrote: > > I was just thinking about the historicity of the peoples who currently > inhabit the area call Gambia. > > Assuming that the consciousness of "other" ethnic groups were not present > in the Gambia around the 1900s, when were these groups invented? I am > specifically referring to the two different "Narr" groups that are part of > the Gambian society. Due to my little knowledge of Gambian history, I can > only make assumptions. First I will assume that historians and > anthropologists may have have documented the invention of ethnic and of > tribes all over the continent. From that, I will also assume that their > (historians and anthropologists) findings would agree with the fact that > the invention took place at the time when the colonial state was also > invented. > > So in a sense, if my assumptions are correct, the "Narr" groups, though > excluded politically, are part and parcel of the history of the nation of > the Gambia. They did not have to invent their own identity because they > were just DIFFERENT, racially, that is. What they did, however, was to > isolate themselves from the rest of the population. Those that are refered > to as "Nar Gannar" are different from the "Nar Beirut" or Lebanese > maronites most of whom (I suppose (do you see my ignorance???)) do not > intermarry with indigeneous Gambians. > > How has these groups influenced the shaping of ideas and attitudes about > ourselves and how has their presence in the Gambia helped the counry both > economically and socially? > > Habib, please do not take this as an insult. I am just trying to learn > something. After all, I can trace my ancestors back to the FUTA DJALLON > highlands in Guinea. > > Regards, > Moe S. Jallow > > ========================================================================== > mjallow@sct.edu mjallow@hayes.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moe On the contrary I take it as a compliment because you are trying to find out some basic facts that will surprise a lot of us. Yes there are different Narr groups -Narri gannars from Mauritania areas, Narri Fass from the Moroccan region, Narri bierut from the lebanese sub region which is futher divided into two parts. The maronites who see themselves as different from the rest of the Narrs because they are remnants of the European crusaders who were defeated by Salladin (during the battles for Jerusalem ). These defeated Europeans ran to the mountains of Lebanon and stayed there under the protection of the French and taxed by the Turks during the Ottaman empire. These Maronites did not intermarry even in Lebanon and split from the main Roman Catholic Church which has created almost all the divisions as we now know it. The French had injected into the Lebanese constitution that the President of Lebanon must be a Christian Maronite ,the vice president a sunni muslim and the speaker of the house a Shia muslim leaving the education for the catholics and so on and so on. In the gambia and most of the west African region it is the muslim Lebanese that mainly mingle or intermarry due to their religious teachings or other Lebanese that are not Marronites( who generally look down upon eve other Christian groups due to their original teachings of superiority imparted by their European ansestors). I hope you can understand the difference in the future to avoid generalizing . Part of the war cries is that why should a president be from only one ethnic group regardless of qualifications. Anyone should be able to contest for President regardless of race ,religion or creed. I guess the lesson we should all learn from this as Moe is trying to do is not to make the same mistake in the Gambia.-eg not only mandinkas should be president or vice versa not only muslims . It should be any qualified Gambian that can get the vote based on merit. We should not let outsiders dictate our country's destiny or rulers. I a again qiute pleased to share another theory. If we as Gambians have our children born in the USA and they become US citizens (their rights) these kids can also identify with Gambia and the US --just as the Lebanese immigrants that had their kids born in the Gambia also identify both with Gambia and Lenanon. I hope you can see the comparisons. PEACE Habib ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 23:00:44 -0800 From: Habib Ghanim <hghanim@erols.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: "c:netscapeMAILSent"@smtp3.erols.com Subject: Re: New Member Message-ID: <345D769C.2040@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SANG1220@AOL.COM wrote: > > Joe Jassey, welcome to the bantaba, are you the Joe Jassey that attended St > Augustine's with the likes of Habib Diab and myself ?, If you are, please > extend my greetings to Andrew Dacosta and Henry Jammeh. > Thanks > Daddy Sang(Emmanuel NDow)Sang I am dying to find out more especially about Vincent Tamba and Paul Kujabi and of Simon Bakuri. JOE Jassey get in touch pls Nasser ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 09:30:03 +0000 From: Abdou O Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Darboe visits Atlanta Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971103093003.00702a94@golf.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:06 02/11/97 -0500, you wrote: >I talked to Darboe and Ousman Sallah last week and while in Washington >DC they met with a number of Senators about the current situation in The >Gambia. They discussed the presence of Libyans and Cuban military >personnel and their role in bolstering Yahya Jammeh. They also discussed >the military hardware purchases and the misuse of the Tawainese loan of >$35 million that was supposed to be utilized for medical and >humanatarian needs. Is this not what many would call "CHEAP POLITICS"?! Just at a time when the US is having a tough time with Mandela's visit to Libya...and the mention of Cuba. How many US military personnel are stationed in other nations around the world. I hope "big brother" will be careful with any actions to be taken. Just yearning for a peaceful political milieu! Abdou Oujimai ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:21:39 +0200 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: (Fwd) REVIEW GAMBIA-L Message-ID: <19971103102203.AAA32460@momodou> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Greetings everyone, Here is the current list of members. I hope you find a long lost friend. Please inform the list managers if you find any incorrect email address. --- Here is the current list of subscribers: 100731.2004@CompuServe.com Lamin Jagne 101346.15@CompuServe.COM L K 101377.1007@Compuserve.com Maja Sonko 101573.1703@compuserve.com SANKUNG SAWO 106170.3155@CompuServe.COM Lamin Demba 73244.2701@CompuServe.COM Dr Shehu Kamara 76453.1037@compuserve.com Sean Oleary A.cham@reading.ac.uk Adama Cham ab063147@gwmail.kysu.edu Annie Bittaye ABALM@aol.com Abba ABARROW@RR5.intel.com Pa-Abdou Barrow ABARROW@rr5.rr.intel.com Pa-Abdou Barrow Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no Abdou Gibba abdou@cs.columbia.edu Abdou abdoub@math.uio.no Abdou Bobb Abene@hotmail.com Noah Jatta Acog@aol.com Anthony Grant Ademba@aol.com Alasana Demba Ademba@Gardner-Webb.edu Alasana Demba adibba@online.no Abdoulie Dibba aep97ej@reading.ac.uk Ebrima Jawara AJagne@aol.com Assan Jagne alexp@login.eunet.no Alex P. Swarray alhagi@iiu.my ALHAGI MANTA DRAMMEH alieu@hotmail.com Alieu Bah ALPHAUMAR@HOTMAIL.COM Alpha Umar alyons@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu Andy Lyons amadou.kabir.njie@aviaplan.no Amadou K. Njie amiejoof@midway.uchicago.edu Amie Joof Amouj@aol.com Amadou Jallow amyaidara@hotmail.com Amy Aidara ardopadel@aol.com Phillip Sowe asanyang@vkol..pspt.fi Abdoulie Sanyang asanyang@vkol.pspt.fi Abdoulie Sanyang ASTU@aol.com Isatou Jobe attatas@hotmail.com astrid christensen-tasong awo@mindspring.com M W Payne AYONELSONHOMIAH@compuserve.com Ayo.N.H B.M.Jones@econ.hull.ac.uk Basil Jones b96nj@mh1.hh.se Nuha Jatta Ba-Musa.Ceesay@Oslo.Norad.telemax.no Ba-Musa badjiek@unixg.ubc.ca Karafa Badjie BAKSAWA@aol.com Awa Sey bala7500@mach1.wlu.ca Ancha Bala-Gaye bala@algonet.se Balla Jallow balagay@muss.CIA.McMaster.CA Yai-Fatou Bala-Gaye barry.mahon@ci.rech.lu Barry Mahon BBOJANG@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU Buba Bojang bdukuray@login.eunet.no Bahary Dukuray beesey@aol.com Baboucarr Sey beezo96@aol.com Beran & Pullo Samba bf299@freenet.carleton.ca Bocar Njie bg970855@taper1p.uccv.ns.ca Batch Gaye bgibba@interlog.com Bakarry Gibba BJABANG@GARDNER-WEBB.EDU Basaikou Jabang blaha@online.no Tor Blaha bmanneh@hotmail.com Baboucarr Manneh bmtouray@mho.net Brian Manga Touray Bngum@MSN.Com Baba Ngum Bojang@juno.com Lamin Bojang BRobinson@gwmail.kysu.edu Dr. Robinson bsallah@aol.com Babou Sallah Buba.Njie@econ.uib.no Buba Njie BubaBarrow@msn.com Famalang Barrow bxn4929@omega.uta.edu Basiru Ndow c3p0@xsite.net Francis Njie ca385e19@nova.umuc.edu Eretimy George camkunda@swbell.net John Camara cb714@greenwich.ac.uk BAKEBBA CAMARA ccc25486@vip.cybercity.dk Garba Diallo CD6C6JNJ@swansea.ac.uk Nyakasi Jarju ceesay@bellsouth.net LAMIN CEESAY ceesay@cse.bridgeport.edu Amie Ceesay ceesay_soffie@prc.com Soffie Ceesay chakys@image.dk Chakys Kone cheikh@cse.bridgeport.edu Cheikh Fall chemsm@panther.gsu.edu Musa Sowe conteh@usa.net Lamin Conteh darkstar@is.com.na Gary Dawdas@u.washington.edu Dawda Singhateh debra@mindspring.com Debra Bade dekat@itis.com Katim Touray diagnem@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Mactar Diagne dodo@slg.se Momadou Jobe dodou@slg.se Dodou Jobe dott@aed.org Dana Ott dott@usaid.gov Dana Ott DWLF24A@prodigy.com EDWARD J VAN KLOBERG III E.Jawara@reading.ac.uk Ebrima Jawara ebrima.sall@yale.edu Ebrima Sall ebrima@online.no Ebrima Kah eco7laew@lucs-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk A.Wright ejndow@wico.net Emmanuel Ndow eliman@online.no Eliman Jeng Emily.Awour@aorg.uib.no Emily Achieng Awour EStew68064@aol.com Liz Stewart Fatti faaln@gusun.acc.georgetown.edu N'Koyo Faal FAMARAAS@amadeus.cmi.no Famara A Sanyang FATIS76@aol.com FATOU DIBBA fcham@vub.ac.be Fatim Cham-Jallow Fernan100@aol.com Charles Fernandez fjanneh@juno.com Fatou K. Scattred-Janneh fsaidykh@vkol.pspt.fi Famara Saidykhan fsanyang@is2.dal.ca Fafa Sanyang gajigoo@wabash.edu Ousman Gajigoo gambia-l@commit.gm Torstein Grotnes gamembdc@primanet..com Julianna Baldeh garob1@cip.hx.uni-paderborn.de Alpha Robinson george_radio1_gmb@compuserve.com G. Christensen globexinc@erols.com Habib Ghanim gndow@spelman.edu gambia-l gndow@spelman.edu gso5hss@panther.gsu.edu Haddijatou Secka GT8065B@PRISM.GATECH.EDU Raye Sosseh GTZW80A@prodigy.com Hugh Clifton Gunjur@aol.com Jabou Joh h.drammeh@swipnet.se Hamidou Drameh h.pflueger@gam-line.win.net Harald Pflueger hamza@mail.wdn.com A.Y. Sallah HEIDIS@amadeus.cmi.no Heidi Skramstad hghanim@erols.com Habib Diab Hghanim hous@aol.com Housainou Waggeh J.Gaye@Bradford.ac.uk Jawara Gaye ja132509@gwmail.kysu.edu Joanna Azzi jacka@netwalk.co Ahmad Jack JagneM@wabash.edu Momodou Jagne jagnen25@hotmail.com Njaga Jagne jai_diallo@hotmail.com Jainaba Diallo jambaar@enter.net Amadou L Fall JawaraB@aol.com muhamadou Jawara jkrubally@aol.com Jacob Krubally joe.ndiaye@simrad.no Joe NDiaye Joof@winhlp.no Badara Joof joppl@hotmail.com Jobst Munderlein kabba@aol.com Sulayman Bayo kaiisa@hs.nki.no Isatou B. Kaira kassama@hotmail.com Omar Gassama Kceesay@utmem1.utmem.edu Dr. Karamba Ceesay keita@rocketmail.com Lamin Marenah keita@rocketnet.com Lamin Marenah KeurSamba@aol.com K. Samba kidrass@ica.net Lamin Camara klumpp@kar.dec.com Andrea Klumpp kolls567@qatar.net.qa Bassirou Drammeh kosarsar@msn.com Deequa Kosar ksagnia@hamilton.edu Keks Sanyang KTouray@aol.com Karamba Touray l-opokdk@llo.se Dan Rorsman l.sabally@ic.ac.uk LAMIN SABALLY latir@earthlink.net Latir Downes-Thomas LAYE_GMB@msn.com Abdoulie Manjang lem10@columbia.edu Laura Munzel Ley5mc1@nottingham.ac.uk Momodou Musa Ceesay liedrammeh@aol.com Lie Drammeh lpeterson@sushiking.com Leo Peterson LTR6685@owl.forestry.uga.edu LAURA T RADER m.gassama@swipnet.se MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA m.jallow@ento.uq.edu.au M. Jallow m.jawara@gam.healthnet.org Musa Jawara MADOUJALLOW@HOTMAIL.COM KEBBA JALLOW mafy@avana.net Manlafy Jarjue MALAMIN@IX.NETCOM.COM Lamin Ceesay malang.maane@index.com Malang Maane Malang.maane@sid.net Malang Maane MANSALA@aol.com Momodou Kolley mba4224@etbu.edu Tamsir Mbye mbg@guinness.som.cwru Michael Gomez mbg@guinness.som.cwru.edu Michael Gomez Mbk007@aol.com Baba Krubally mceesay@olemiss.edu Musa Ceesay mceesay@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu Musa Ceesay mclain@admin.uwex.edu Michael McLain mdarbo@intrepid.net Mariama Darboe mdarboe@SCVAX2.WVNET.EDU M.Darboe mec97a14@tron.lyngbyes.dk Fatou Khan MJagana@aol.com Momodou Jagana mjallow@sct.edu Moe Jallow mjallow@st6000.sct.edu Moee Jallow Mjawara@aol.com Musa Jawara mkah@fac.howard.edu Muhammed Kah MKCORRA@VM.SC.EDU Mamadi Corra mmjeng@image.dk Matar M. Jeng mmjeng@inform-bbs.dk Matarr Jeng mn015@students.stir.ac.uk Momodou Njie momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk Momodou Camara Momodou.Jobarteh@Hordaland.vegvesen.telemax.no M J momodou.sidibeh@stockholm.mail.telia.com M.S momodou@INFORM-BBS.DK Momodou Camara momodous@stud.ntnu.no Momodou Sanneh mousa.jeng@nrc-no-telemax.no Mousa Jeng MSARR27100@AOL.COM Soffie Ceesay msjaiteh@mtu.edu Malanding Jaiteh nahak@juno.com Michael Gomez namartin.gem@worldnet.att.com Gabriel Mendy ndramme@wpo.it.luc.edu Ndey Drammeh nfaal@is2.dal.ca Nkoyo Faal Nicholas.Sambou@akh-wien.ac.at N. Sambou nijii@hotmail.com Momodou Camara NJ173949@GWMAIL.KYSU.EDU NDEY JABBIE nj368917@gwmail.kysu.edu Naffie Jammeh njie.1@osu.edu N'Deye Marie N'Jie njie@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Binta Njie njie@online.no Adama S. Njie njogou@hotmail.com Ebrima Drameh normandy@clix.net Norman Dyer nyada@geisnet.gn.apc.org Nyada Baldeh nyima.gassama@stockholm.mail.telia.com Sulayman Gassama O.Baldeh@Bradford.ac.uk Omar Baldeh obaldeh@bradford.ac.uk Omar Baldeh OCORR@GARDNER-WEBB.EDU Ousman Corr OJallow@mail.idt.net OUSAINOU JALLOW ojgibba@hotmail.com Omar Gibba Olafia@online.no Omar S. Saho olafia@online.no Omar Saho Omadi@hotmail.com Omadi Diarra Omar@avana.net Omar Manjang oneke@msn.com Hurrai Betts P.L.Beyai@ncl.ac.uk Pa Lamin Beyai P.L.Beyai@newcastle.ac.uk P. L. Beyai p15a001@rrz.uni-hamburg.de Cherno Jaye paomar@iglou.com Mambuna Bojang payus@vip.cybercity.dk Yusuph Jatta perg@nfh.uit.no Per Egil Grotnes Phillipse@ccsu.edu Dr. Evelyn Newman Phillips Postmaster@citymail.lacc.cc.ca.us Musa Sohna proctord@u.washington.edu Debbie Proctor p_bariteau@msn.com Paul Bariteau r.t.cole@usa.net R. T. Cole rap@cushman.com Rene Prom rdinvest@highway1.com Ron Matheson roberts@ollnen.itsnet.co.uk Oliver Roberts rokst1+@pitt.edu Rohey Khan S.Keita@reading.ac.uk Sainey Keita S.Njie@commonwealth.int Sam Njie s3960217@citymail.lacc.cc.ca.us Musa Sohna sahir.drammeh@bok.bonnier.se Sahir Drammeh Said.Quamar@Aviaplan.no Said Quamar SAJOKONO@AOL.COM Sarjo Santa Bojang SANG1220@aol.com Daddy Sang Ndow sang_candebak_s.mendy@berea.edu Sang Mendy sankungsawo@compuserve.com Sankung Sawo sankungsawo@delphi.com Sankung Sawo sarian.loum@corp.sun.com Sarian Loum Sdramm@nsccx.sccd.ctc.edu Saihou Drammeh secka@cse.bridgeport.edu Anna Secka seedyk@hotmail.com Seedy Kany seela@oz.net Cheikh Faty sg125909@gwmail.kysu.edu Sukai Gaye sgreyjoh@is.dal.ca Symerre Grey-Johnson shieboyc@aol.com Shieriff Drammeh sidibeh@cc.helsinki.fi Modou Sidibeh sireh@aol.com Bubacarr Jallow sisayy@wabash.edu Yaya Sisay SJ044947@gwmail.kysu.edu Sigga Jagne snjie@gis.net Samba Njie Sompo.Sinyan@udac.se Sompo Sinyan sowe@online.no Pa Sowe srhayes@indiana.edu Susan Hayes Ssaidy76@aol.com Yangkuba Saidy ssylva@emory.edu Saul Sylva st0021@student-mail.jsu.edu Nyang (Daddy) Njie st1638@student-mail.jsu.edu Lala Jabang st1@iiu.edu.my Senssie Turay st2063@student-mail.jsu.edu Paul D. Jammeh stenevang@hotmail.com Theodor Stenevang StinkyM@juno.com Baba Krubally Sxb04673@student.astate.edu Sal Barry TAIKAIN@aol.com Patricia Collier Tamsir@hotmail.co Tamsir Mbai Tijan@wam.umd.edu Ahmed Tijan Deen tjanfoon@ix.netcom.com Tijan Foon tloum@u.washington.edu Anthony W Loum TOURAY1@aol.com Lamin Touray Touray@cldc.howard.edu Madi Touray TSaidy1050@aol.com Tombong Saidy umjawara@cc.UManitoba.CA Alieu B. Jawara utbult@bahnhof.se Mats Utbult v5bubbad@ulmo.stud.slu.se Buba badjie vanjakim@comet.net Nathan Van Hooser vbu053@freenet.mb.ca Yvan Russell wadda@ihe.nl Amadou Wadda wcroberts@osprey.smcm.edu BILL ROBERTS wintersu@dlc.fi Lamin Jammeh YamaYandeh@aol.com Mr and Mrs Seedy Ceesay yamsin@hotmail.com Mariama Njie YJENG@PHNET.SPH.JHU.EDU Yaikah Marie Jeng yulbsore@aol.com Batch Samba yusupha@elephantwalk.com Yusupha Ceesay Total number of subscribers: 287 (287 shown here) GAMBIA-L SHADOW LIST tgr@commit.gm Torstein Grotnes jgr@commit.gm Jorn Grotnes ymca@commit.gm Mr. Sam B. Thorpe pmj@commit.gm Pa Musa Jallow alieu.jagne@commit.gm Alieu Jagne swetz@commit.gm Jim Swetz wendela@commit.gm Wendela Van Bilderbeek foroyaa@commit.gm ( Adama Bah) narb@commit.gm (Dr. A.Jeng) gambia.college@commit.gm (Mr. Manneh) nari@commit.gm Nari (Mr. Samuel J. Bruce-Olivier) allen@commit.gm Aki Allen miknas@commit.gm Mr.Jamal Miknas mym.sallah@commit.gm Momodou Sallah panjie@commit.gm Pa M.M.Njie number of Gambia-l shadow list subscribers 15 (note: NARI,NARB, Gambia College and Foroyaa are institutions and I have just written the name of the person responsible for the email) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 13:20:46 -0500 From: "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: (Fwd) REVIEW GAMBIA-L Message-ID: <345E15FE.1FE8@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Camara, Momodou wrote: > > Greetings everyone, > Here is the current list of members. I hope you find a long lost > friend. Please inform the list managers if you find any incorrect > email address. > > --- Here is the current list of subscribers: > > 100731.2004@CompuServe.com Lamin Jagne > 101346.15@CompuServe.COM L K > 101377.1007@Compuserve.com Maja Sonko > 101573.1703@compuserve.com SANKUNG SAWO > 106170.3155@CompuServe.COM Lamin Demba > 73244.2701@CompuServe.COM Dr Shehu Kamara > 76453.1037@compuserve.com Sean Oleary > A.cham@reading.ac.uk Adama Cham > ab063147@gwmail.kysu.edu Annie Bittaye > ABALM@aol.com Abba > ABARROW@RR5.intel.com Pa-Abdou Barrow > ABARROW@rr5.rr.intel.com Pa-Abdou Barrow > Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no Abdou Gibba > abdou@cs.columbia.edu Abdou > abdoub@math.uio.no Abdou Bobb > Abene@hotmail.com Noah Jatta > Acog@aol.com Anthony Grant > Ademba@aol.com Alasana Demba > Ademba@Gardner-Webb.edu Alasana Demba > adibba@online.no Abdoulie Dibba > aep97ej@reading.ac.uk Ebrima Jawara > AJagne@aol.com Assan Jagne > alexp@login.eunet.no Alex P. Swarray > alhagi@iiu.my ALHAGI MANTA DRAMMEH > alieu@hotmail.com Alieu Bah > ALPHAUMAR@HOTMAIL.COM Alpha Umar > alyons@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu Andy Lyons > amadou.kabir.njie@aviaplan.no Amadou K. Njie > amiejoof@midway.uchicago.edu Amie Joof > Amouj@aol.com Amadou Jallow > amyaidara@hotmail.com Amy Aidara > ardopadel@aol.com Phillip Sowe > asanyang@vkol..pspt.fi Abdoulie Sanyang > asanyang@vkol.pspt.fi Abdoulie Sanyang > ASTU@aol.com Isatou Jobe > attatas@hotmail.com astrid christensen-tasong > awo@mindspring.com M W Payne > AYONELSONHOMIAH@compuserve.com Ayo.N.H > B.M.Jones@econ.hull.ac.uk Basil Jones > b96nj@mh1.hh.se Nuha Jatta > Ba-Musa.Ceesay@Oslo.Norad.telemax.no Ba-Musa > badjiek@unixg.ubc.ca Karafa Badjie > BAKSAWA@aol.com Awa Sey > bala7500@mach1.wlu.ca Ancha Bala-Gaye > bala@algonet.se Balla Jallow > balagay@muss.CIA.McMaster.CA Yai-Fatou Bala-Gaye > barry.mahon@ci.rech.lu Barry Mahon > BBOJANG@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU Buba Bojang > bdukuray@login.eunet.no Bahary Dukuray > beesey@aol.com Baboucarr Sey > beezo96@aol.com Beran & Pullo Samba > bf299@freenet.carleton.ca Bocar Njie > bg970855@taper1p.uccv.ns.ca Batch Gaye > bgibba@interlog.com Bakarry Gibba > BJABANG@GARDNER-WEBB.EDU Basaikou Jabang > blaha@online.no Tor Blaha > bmanneh@hotmail.com Baboucarr Manneh > bmtouray@mho.net Brian Manga Touray > Bngum@MSN.Com Baba Ngum > Bojang@juno.com Lamin Bojang > BRobinson@gwmail.kysu.edu Dr. Robinson > bsallah@aol.com Babou Sallah > Buba.Njie@econ.uib.no Buba Njie > BubaBarrow@msn.com Famalang Barrow > bxn4929@omega.uta.edu Basiru Ndow > c3p0@xsite.net Francis Njie > ca385e19@nova.umuc.edu Eretimy George > camkunda@swbell.net John Camara > cb714@greenwich.ac.uk BAKEBBA CAMARA > ccc25486@vip.cybercity.dk Garba Diallo > CD6C6JNJ@swansea.ac.uk Nyakasi Jarju > ceesay@bellsouth.net LAMIN CEESAY > ceesay@cse.bridgeport.edu Amie Ceesay > ceesay_soffie@prc.com Soffie Ceesay > chakys@image.dk Chakys Kone > cheikh@cse.bridgeport.edu Cheikh Fall > chemsm@panther.gsu.edu Musa Sowe > conteh@usa.net Lamin Conteh > darkstar@is.com.na Gary > Dawdas@u.washington.edu Dawda Singhateh > debra@mindspring.com Debra Bade > dekat@itis.com Katim Touray > diagnem@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Mactar Diagne > dodo@slg.se Momadou Jobe > dodou@slg.se Dodou Jobe > dott@aed.org Dana Ott > dott@usaid.gov Dana Ott > DWLF24A@prodigy.com EDWARD J VAN KLOBERG > III E.Jawara@reading.ac.uk Ebrima Jawara > ebrima.sall@yale.edu Ebrima Sall > ebrima@online.no Ebrima Kah > eco7laew@lucs-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk A.Wright > ejndow@wico.net Emmanuel Ndow > eliman@online.no Eliman Jeng > Emily.Awour@aorg.uib.no Emily Achieng Awour > EStew68064@aol.com Liz Stewart Fatti > faaln@gusun.acc.georgetown.edu N'Koyo Faal > FAMARAAS@amadeus.cmi.no Famara A Sanyang > FATIS76@aol.com FATOU DIBBA > fcham@vub.ac.be Fatim Cham-Jallow > Fernan100@aol.com Charles Fernandez > fjanneh@juno.com Fatou K. Scattred-Janneh > fsaidykh@vkol.pspt.fi Famara Saidykhan > fsanyang@is2.dal.ca Fafa Sanyang > gajigoo@wabash.edu Ousman Gajigoo > gambia-l@commit.gm Torstein Grotnes > gamembdc@primanet..com Julianna Baldeh > garob1@cip.hx.uni-paderborn.de Alpha Robinson > george_radio1_gmb@compuserve.com G. Christensen > globexinc@erols.com Habib Ghanim > gndow@spelman.edu gambia-l > gndow@spelman.edu > gso5hss@panther.gsu.edu Haddijatou Secka > GT8065B@PRISM.GATECH.EDU Raye Sosseh > GTZW80A@prodigy.com Hugh Clifton > Gunjur@aol.com Jabou Joh > h.drammeh@swipnet.se Hamidou Drameh > h.pflueger@gam-line.win.net Harald Pflueger > hamza@mail.wdn.com A.Y. Sallah > HEIDIS@amadeus.cmi.no Heidi Skramstad > hghanim@erols.com Habib Diab Hghanim > hous@aol.com Housainou Waggeh > J.Gaye@Bradford.ac.uk Jawara Gaye > ja132509@gwmail.kysu.edu Joanna Azzi > jacka@netwalk.co Ahmad Jack > JagneM@wabash.edu Momodou Jagne > jagnen25@hotmail.com Njaga Jagne > jai_diallo@hotmail.com Jainaba Diallo > jambaar@enter.net Amadou L Fall > JawaraB@aol.com muhamadou Jawara > jkrubally@aol.com Jacob Krubally > joe.ndiaye@simrad.no Joe NDiaye > Joof@winhlp.no Badara Joof > joppl@hotmail.com Jobst Munderlein > kabba@aol.com Sulayman Bayo > kaiisa@hs.nki.no Isatou B. Kaira > kassama@hotmail.com Omar Gassama > Kceesay@utmem1.utmem.edu Dr. Karamba Ceesay > keita@rocketmail.com Lamin Marenah > keita@rocketnet.com Lamin Marenah > KeurSamba@aol.com K. Samba > kidrass@ica.net Lamin Camara > klumpp@kar.dec.com Andrea Klumpp > kolls567@qatar.net.qa Bassirou Drammeh > kosarsar@msn.com Deequa Kosar > ksagnia@hamilton.edu Keks Sanyang > KTouray@aol.com Karamba Touray > l-opokdk@llo.se Dan Rorsman > l.sabally@ic.ac.uk LAMIN SABALLY > latir@earthlink.net Latir Downes-Thomas > LAYE_GMB@msn.com Abdoulie Manjang > lem10@columbia.edu Laura Munzel > Ley5mc1@nottingham.ac.uk Momodou Musa Ceesay > liedrammeh@aol.com Lie Drammeh > lpeterson@sushiking.com Leo Peterson > LTR6685@owl.forestry.uga.edu LAURA T RADER > m.gassama@swipnet.se MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA > m.jallow@ento.uq.edu.au M. Jallow > m.jawara@gam.healthnet.org Musa Jawara > MADOUJALLOW@HOTMAIL.COM KEBBA JALLOW > mafy@avana.net Manlafy Jarjue > MALAMIN@IX.NETCOM.COM Lamin Ceesay > malang.maane@index.com Malang Maane > Malang.maane@sid.net Malang Maane > MANSALA@aol.com Momodou Kolley > mba4224@etbu.edu Tamsir Mbye > mbg@guinness.som.cwru Michael Gomez > mbg@guinness.som.cwru.edu Michael Gomez > Mbk007@aol.com Baba Krubally > mceesay@olemiss.edu Musa Ceesay > mceesay@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu Musa Ceesay > mclain@admin.uwex.edu Michael McLain > mdarbo@intrepid.net Mariama Darboe > mdarboe@SCVAX2.WVNET.EDU M.Darboe > mec97a14@tron.lyngbyes.dk Fatou Khan > MJagana@aol.com Momodou Jagana > mjallow@sct.edu Moe Jallow > mjallow@st6000.sct.edu Moee Jallow > Mjawara@aol.com Musa Jawara > mkah@fac.howard.edu Muhammed Kah > MKCORRA@VM.SC.EDU Mamadi Corra > mmjeng@image.dk Matar M. Jeng > mmjeng@inform-bbs.dk Matarr Jeng > mn015@students.stir.ac.uk Momodou Njie > momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk Momodou Camara > Momodou.Jobarteh@Hordaland.vegvesen.telemax.no M J > momodou.sidibeh@stockholm.mail.telia.com M.S > momodou@INFORM-BBS.DK Momodou Camara > momodous@stud.ntnu.no Momodou Sanneh > mousa.jeng@nrc-no-telemax.no Mousa Jeng > MSARR27100@AOL.COM Soffie Ceesay > msjaiteh@mtu.edu Malanding Jaiteh > nahak@juno.com Michael Gomez > namartin.gem@worldnet.att.com Gabriel Mendy > ndramme@wpo.it.luc.edu Ndey Drammeh > nfaal@is2.dal.ca Nkoyo Faal > Nicholas.Sambou@akh-wien.ac.at N. Sambou > nijii@hotmail.com Momodou Camara > NJ173949@GWMAIL.KYSU.EDU NDEY JABBIE > nj368917@gwmail.kysu.edu Naffie Jammeh > njie.1@osu.edu N'Deye Marie N'Jie > njie@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Binta Njie > njie@online.no Adama S. Njie > njogou@hotmail.com Ebrima Drameh > normandy@clix.net Norman Dyer > nyada@geisnet.gn.apc.org Nyada Baldeh > nyima.gassama@stockholm.mail.telia.com Sulayman Gassama > O.Baldeh@Bradford.ac.uk Omar Baldeh > obaldeh@bradford.ac.uk Omar Baldeh > OCORR@GARDNER-WEBB.EDU Ousman Corr > OJallow@mail.idt.net OUSAINOU JALLOW > ojgibba@hotmail.com Omar Gibba > Olafia@online.no Omar S. Saho > olafia@online.no Omar Saho > Omadi@hotmail.com Omadi Diarra > Omar@avana.net Omar Manjang > oneke@msn.com Hurrai Betts > P.L.Beyai@ncl.ac.uk Pa Lamin Beyai > P.L.Beyai@newcastle.ac.uk P. L. Beyai > p15a001@rrz.uni-hamburg.de Cherno Jaye > paomar@iglou.com Mambuna Bojang > payus@vip.cybercity.dk Yusuph Jatta > perg@nfh.uit.no Per Egil Grotnes > Phillipse@ccsu.edu Dr. Evelyn Newman > Phillips Postmaster@citymail.lacc.cc.ca.us Musa Sohna > proctord@u.washington.edu Debbie Proctor > p_bariteau@msn.com Paul Bariteau > r.t.cole@usa.net R. T. Cole > rap@cushman.com Rene Prom > rdinvest@highway1.com Ron Matheson > roberts@ollnen.itsnet.co.uk Oliver Roberts > rokst1+@pitt.edu Rohey Khan > S.Keita@reading.ac.uk Sainey Keita > S.Njie@commonwealth.int Sam Njie > s3960217@citymail.lacc.cc.ca.us Musa Sohna > sahir.drammeh@bok.bonnier.se Sahir Drammeh > Said.Quamar@Aviaplan.no Said Quamar > SAJOKONO@AOL.COM Sarjo Santa Bojang > SANG1220@aol.com Daddy Sang Ndow > sang_candebak_s.mendy@berea.edu Sang Mendy > sankungsawo@compuserve.com Sankung Sawo > sankungsawo@delphi.com Sankung Sawo > sarian.loum@corp.sun.com Sarian Loum > Sdramm@nsccx.sccd.ctc.edu Saihou Drammeh > secka@cse.bridgeport.edu Anna Secka > seedyk@hotmail.com Seedy Kany > seela@oz.net Cheikh Faty > sg125909@gwmail.kysu.edu Sukai Gaye > sgreyjoh@is.dal.ca Symerre Grey-Johnson > shieboyc@aol.com Shieriff Drammeh > sidibeh@cc.helsinki.fi Modou Sidibeh > sireh@aol.com Bubacarr Jallow > sisayy@wabash.edu Yaya Sisay > SJ044947@gwmail.kysu.edu Sigga Jagne > snjie@gis.net Samba Njie > Sompo.Sinyan@udac.se Sompo Sinyan > sowe@online.no Pa Sowe > srhayes@indiana.edu Susan Hayes > Ssaidy76@aol.com Yangkuba Saidy > ssylva@emory.edu Saul Sylva > st0021@student-mail.jsu.edu Nyang (Daddy) Njie > st1638@student-mail.jsu.edu Lala Jabang > st1@iiu.edu.my Senssie Turay > st2063@student-mail.jsu.edu Paul D. Jammeh > stenevang@hotmail.com Theodor Stenevang > StinkyM@juno.com Baba Krubally > Sxb04673@student.astate.edu Sal Barry > TAIKAIN@aol.com Patricia Collier > Tamsir@hotmail.co Tamsir Mbai > Tijan@wam.umd.edu Ahmed Tijan Deen > tjanfoon@ix.netcom.com Tijan Foon > tloum@u.washington.edu Anthony W Loum > TOURAY1@aol.com Lamin Touray > Touray@cldc.howard.edu Madi Touray > TSaidy1050@aol.com Tombong Saidy > umjawara@cc.UManitoba.CA Alieu B. Jawara > utbult@bahnhof.se Mats Utbult > v5bubbad@ulmo.stud.slu.se Buba badjie > vanjakim@comet.net Nathan Van Hooser > vbu053@freenet.mb.ca Yvan Russell > wadda@ihe.nl Amadou Wadda > wcroberts@osprey.smcm.edu BILL ROBERTS > wintersu@dlc.fi Lamin Jammeh > YamaYandeh@aol.com Mr and Mrs Seedy > Ceesay yamsin@hotmail.com Mariama Njie > YJENG@PHNET.SPH.JHU.EDU Yaikah Marie Jeng > yulbsore@aol.com Batch Samba > yusupha@elephantwalk.com Yusupha Ceesay Total > number of subscribers: 287 (287 shown here) > > GAMBIA-L SHADOW LIST > > tgr@commit.gm Torstein Grotnes > jgr@commit.gm Jorn Grotnes > ymca@commit.gm Mr. Sam B. Thorpe > pmj@commit.gm Pa Musa Jallow > alieu.jagne@commit.gm Alieu Jagne > swetz@commit.gm Jim Swetz > wendela@commit.gm Wendela Van Bilderbeek > foroyaa@commit.gm ( Adama Bah) > narb@commit.gm (Dr. A.Jeng) > gambia.college@commit.gm (Mr. Manneh) > nari@commit.gm Nari (Mr. Samuel J. Bruce-Olivier) > allen@commit.gm Aki Allen > miknas@commit.gm Mr.Jamal Miknas > mym.sallah@commit.gm Momodou Sallah > panjie@commit.gm Pa M.M.Njie > > number of Gambia-l shadow list subscribers 15 (note: NARI,NARB, > Gambia College and Foroyaa are institutions and I have just written > the name of the person responsible for the email) Thanks I definately found some long lost friends Habib Diab Ghanim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:55:48 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Darboe's meeting in Atlanta Message-ID: <9711031855.AA36092@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pa-Mambuna, you wrote: > Can the Atlantans be kind and brief us about what was discussed at > Darboe's meeting last evening. Either Latjor or Moe does a real good job > on such matters, and I'm sure they would love to brief us about the > event. > GOD BLESS!! Hello Folks! I was away from my computer throughout the whole weekend and that's why I coudn't respond to Pa-Mambuna's request earlier. Yes, I attended Mr. Darboe's meeting, not as a UDP member or supporter, but because it was held only 5 minutes away from my home. I think I will do some members grave injustice if I do not share what transpired at the gathering. Before I get "flamed" on this, please, understand that I have no connection with either the UPD or the APRC, and the following information is only a recollection of Mr. Darboe's speech which I intend to share with those Gambia-Lers who are interested. Since I am also at work at present, I will try to make it as brief as possible. Thank you. Regards Moe S. Jallow =========================================================================== Despite the late arrival of most of the attendees, Mr. Darboe's meeting went very smoothly considering the short notice that was given. I would estimate that a little over a hundred people showed up despite the heavy rain that was poured intermittently outdoors. After the introduction and opening speech by Mr. Kebba Jallow of Atlanta, the audience was asked to watch a video that would give an idea of what chairman Darboe was going to talk about. Before his speech though, the chairman emphasized "this gathering is neither a UDP nor a political gathering". Rather, it was intended to show all concerned Gambians what has (and still is) transpired in the Gambia before and after the elections. The 20 minute video show provided some horrible insights about the alleged beatings of some UDP supporters during the campaign for election. The victims were interviewed in English (and some Mandinka) in which they told horror stories about how they were arrested (by the NIA), detained, starved and tortured with "host pipe" beatings, evidenced by the wounds and black markings on their backs and other body parts. In some cases, even some women were part of the brutalized victims, and that was enough to enlighten the audience about the brutality that took place during the election period. Chairman Darboe's opening statement went on to describe the Jammeh's regime as a "gang of thieves and bandits", whose presence in the Gambia is crippling the very society they seem to be representing. He reiterated that the main objective of the UDP party and its supporters was to "isolate" and "cripple" the APRC regime. Not only was the UDP party given insufficient time (only 2 weeks) before the elections, they were also subjected to dangerous and hostile attacks at their rallys and meetings according to him. He stated that he and his supporters were attacked, beaten, jailed and their mail and fax mail were tampered with while their telephones were tapped constantly. However, he boasted the party's overwhelming achievement of 35% of the registered voters despite the persecution they were subjected to. On cultural binding and tribal unity, Mr. Darboe accused president Jammeh and his followers of dividing the country and causing enemity, especially between the Jolas and Mandinkas, that the gambia was never known for before. On the issue of corruption and scandalous activities, he accused the Jammeh regime of unfaithfulness towards the Gambian people. He specifically questioned the Gambia-Taiwan connection and also where the governement was getting the funds that were being embezzled by the Jammeh regime. He also mentioned the alleged "drug" ship that was captured in the coast of Mauritania, whose contents was supposedly soy beans from Cambodia, and whose detination was addressed to none other than the ministry of Agriculture of the Gambia (He said that he can prove it too). He further accused the Jammeh regime of illegal activities in the form drug trafficking and trade that has overwhelmingly tainted the name of the Gambia and its people throughout the world. It has become quite a usual routine for Gambians to be detained at airports for no reason other than being suspects of drug trafficking activities. On the case of the Malian-Gambian Babanding Sissoho, Mr. Darboe stated that the Gambian people were at a loss as to how he obtained his diplomatic status (passport) and what he intended with the two helicopters he was to take back to the Gambia from the United States. The chairman stated that the Jammeh regime has refused to "withdraw" Mr. Sissoho's diplomatic passport and would not give any explanation to that effect. On the issue of extragant and fruitless expenditures chairman Darboe attacked the APRC regime for mistakenly calling "national development" the "erecting of buildings" and calling it development. He specifically mentioned the $1.5 million ARCH, the $10 million (1 story) airpport terminal and the $6.5 million farafenni hospital. In the case of the ARCH, he said that it has no developmental value, hence it was a waste of resources. Instead an Islamic school could have been erected there since portion of the ARCH is on the ground that is used as a prayer ground. In this way, the tradition of the place could have been continued. As far as the airport terminal is concerned, Mr. Darboe stated that the government didn't do the necessary statisctics and projections to find out a lower price for that project. He jokingly said that a $10 million dollar building even in New York City will look like a $10 million dollar storey building and not just a 1 story building covered with glass. The project, according to him, could have been completed with a mere $4 - $5 million dollars. He stated that not the two most important things in the country, Agriculture and health care has received the magnitude of $10 million dollars. Finally, on the Farafenni hospital, he said that Farafenni didn't need a $6.5 million dollar hospital when there are the MRC, Farafenni health center and Farafenni district hospital. And certainly, NOT when the RVH in Banjul is dying from the lack of medical personnel and supplies, and even the simplest medical precription is not available in the hospital and must be purchased in a pharmacy ouside the hospital. He also said that the Cuban doctors are NOT qualified doctors! Other extravagant issues, according to the chairman, involves how the president purchased 22 new vehicles and utility vehicles for about $255,000 dollars and gave it to the military and the NIA. President Jammeh told them the money for the purchase of the vehicles "is not from the world bank, is not from the IMF, but IT IS FROM MY BANK". Mr. Darbo said that the money may have come from kickbacks, the treasury and/or foreign donations that the president just decided to personalize. The chairman further accused president Jammeh of using Gambia's money to hire private airplanes when travelling abroad. For the 3 day OAU summit in Zimbabwe earlier this year, for example, the president paid a total of 720,000 (I'm not sure if this dalasis or US dollars) to charter a private plane. Mr. Darboe said that during the Jawara days, it was not uncommon for president Jawara to call Abdou Diouf or other African leaders to try to "hitch a flight" with them. He said "that kind of money could have been used by some women in Kantora and their gardens." With his last words, the chairman said "It has become common for many Gambians to have ONLY 1 meal a day", and that "a country is bound to go bankrupt with these kinds of extravagancy and corruption". Please, note that these are just the main points. The meeting lasted for approximately 3 hours and the audience was allocated 30 minutes to ask questions. Contrary to president Jawara's visit, Mr. Darboe was well received and his address was heard without interruptions of the "booing and name-calling" kind. Thank you for reading. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:52:13 -0600 (CST) From: Nyang Njie <st0021@student-mail.jsu.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Ethnicity and Identity Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971103113227.19715B-100000@student-mail.jsu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How has these groups influenced the shaping of ideas and attitudes about ourselves and how has their presence in the Gambia helped the country both economically and socially? ********************************************************************** I think Moe has raised a question that we need to look into in detail. Growing up in the Gambia, I have seen the positive and negative aspects of the Narr Ganarr and Narri Beirut and it is my opinion that their inclusion into Gambian society caused more social and economical harm than good. Before I proceed, I want to make it clear that I am not targeting anybody and my opinion is just a mere observation of people and their activities. First of all I think the Narr Ganarr were passive immigrants who were not interested in the politics or social ideals of the Gambia. Most of them stayed in the Country for a while, accumulated considerable wealth then leave their shops with other relatives. The bad thing about them was they caused a considerable outflow of cash from the country. On the other hand, the Narri Beirut was a long term settler in the Gambia and this happened because of numerous reasons. They lived in a region where there was a lot of political turmoil (Syria & Lebanon)therefore they moved to more stable and lucritive parts of the world. If you look closely, there were a lot Lebanese in Uganda, Liberia, Sierra Leone and other wealthy African countries. What has happened today? Most of them have abandoned their former settlements for new ones. This force me to believe that most of them are not as loyal to the Gambia as the indegenious population. Most of them will move on if Gambia was to be in total chaos. They have made huge sums of money in the Gambia but they do not reinvest it in the country. We all know that corruption is a disease that plaques our country and most of it is caused by them. Personally, I believe that the new wave of Lebanese Immigrants that have settled in the Gambia from 1984-94 are the real problem.. They are as bad as the pirates of the old seas, or the Koreans in African American neighborhoods The have know regard or respect for authority because they have bought them all. Most in business evaded income and excise taxes. Socially, the Lebanese are a close knit community. Their interaction with the locals are limited. They built their own community centre (Cedar Club) which I believe was just open to them. Once again this is just an opinion and should not be taken in an offensive manner. Si jama, Daddy njie. ********************************************** ** Until the lions have their own historian,** ** the tale of the hunt will always ** ** glorify the hunter. ** ** Jambarr dawut dafa uti dolleh! ** ** Daddy Njie ** ********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:18:20 -0800 (PST) From: "D. Proctor" <proctord@u.washington.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Gala (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.971103111646.79590H-100000@homer06.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For those in the Seattle Area Organization of African Associations - Annual GALA Sat November 8, 1997 Blackburn V.F.W. Hall 12327 15th Ave. N.E., Seattle 7:00 pm-4:00 AM - yes 4 AM $8.00 advance/$10.00 at the door Featuring: Cultural Entertainment, Dinner, Fashion Show, Music and Dancing (African Highlife/Reggea/Rhythm & Blues), Beverages Special Feature: Masqurade Dance/Nigerian - Igbo Cultural Group Ocheami Cultural Group Leads Procession of Chiefs and Dignitaries Guest Speaker: Congressman Jim McDermott 1-5 northbound take Exit 174 (130th St) Make a right turn at the light (130th St) then go to 15th Ave N.E. Make another right turn and Blackburn Hall will be half a block on your right. O.A.A. is an umbrella organization of many associations, such as Nigeria, Senegal, The Gambia, Uganda, Kenya, Ghana, Ethiopia, Eritrean, Zaire, Sierra Leone etc. Tickets are available at Kilimanjaro Market 12519 Lake City Wy NE 440-1440 or myself THIS SHOULD BE GREAT FUN, HOPE TO SEE SOME OF YOU THERE! Debbie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:23:33 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Ethnicity and Identity Message-ID: <9711031923.AA55312@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Brother Habib, I thank you for the educative response that you provided. I am also glad that you didn't take it personal. My families back home have many "Narr" friends and business associates and I wouldn't want to put that friendship in jeopardy. I will wait and see if any other members will comment on the last question of the message: > > How has these groups influenced the shaping of ideas and attitudes about > > ourselves and how has their presence in the Gambia helped the counry both > > economically and socially? Regards, Moe S. Jallow ============================================================================ mjallow@sct.edu mjallow@hayes.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:52:21 -0600 From: "Katim S. Touray" <dekat@itis.com> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Darboe's meeting in Atlanta Message-ID: <199711031953.NAA18446@tower.itis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, i'm writing to say a BIG "Thank you" to Modou Jallow for an excellent report on Mr. Darboe's meeting in Atlanta, GA. some very disturbing allegations have, again, been raised leaving one to wonder where we're headed to. if these allegations are true, i guess we can all begin looking back, with nostalgia, on the old days ... maybe they weren't so bad, and probably were mostly good. have a great week! Katim ---------- > From: Modou Jallow <mjallow@st6000.sct.edu> > To: GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Darboe's meeting in Atlanta > Date: Monday, November 03, 1997 12:55 PM > > > Hello Folks! > > I was away from my computer throughout the whole weekend and that's why I > coudn't respond to Pa-Mambuna's request earlier. Yes, I attended Mr. > Darboe's meeting, not as a UDP member or supporter, but because it was > held only 5 minutes away from my home. I think I will do some members > grave injustice if I do not share what transpired at the gathering. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:04:00 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: new article on the Gambia Message-ID: <9711032004.AA11020@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mr. Jobst, you wrote: > this is just a hint to where all those that are interested can find the > latest scientific article on the GAmbia: > > Wiseman, John A., 1997, Letting Yahya JAmmeh off lightly?, in: Peview of > Africasn Political Economy, No. 72, P. 265-276 Where can one obtain a copy? > The one part that surprised me was the one one the unofficial version of > the presidential election results in disadvantage of JAmmeh - that > simply is not true, as far as I am concerned. Please, explain why it is "in disadvantage of Jammeh". Why are you surprised? Thank you. Regards, Moe S. Jallow ========================================================================= mjallow@sct.edu mjallow@hayes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:15:15 -0500 (EST) From: "N'Deye Marie N'Jie" <njie.1@osu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu, africans@iastate.edu, papaf@iastate.edu Subject: 5 Faculty Positions at Georgia State Univ, Atlanta (fxd> (fwd) Message-ID: <2.2.16.19971103161344.21673352@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >There are five tenure-line faculty positions open in the >Middle/Secondary Education and Instructional Technology Department >in the College of Education at Georgia State University, Atlanta, >GA. Salaries negotiable based on qualifications. The positions >are: > >. INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY/LIBRARY MEDIA TECHNOLOGY. Tenure-track, >Assistant Professor; Primary duties: Teach in undergrad and >graduate level programs in instructional technology and library >media technology, provide leadership with applications of >technology to education, with focus on multimedia, distance >learning, and other emerging technologies, and conduct service and >research in areas of specialization. Qualifications: earned >doctorate in instructional technology, library media technology, >or related field; record of scholarship and evidence of quality >teaching and service; experience working in urban setting. > >. MIDDLE CHILDHOOD EDUCATION: Tenure-track; Assistant Professor. >Primary duties: teach undergraduate and graduate courses in middle >childhood program focusing on interdisciplinary issues of >teaching, learning, curriculum, and assissment, with special >applications for middle grades; provide leadership with graduate >programs in Middle Childhood Education; conduct service and >research in areas of specialization. Qualifications: earned >doctorate in Middle Childhood Education, or in a content area >field, with specialization in middle childhood, or in related >field; experience teaching middle childhood students at pre- >college levels; experience with teacher education programs and >with applications of technology to instruction; record of >scholarship and evidence of quality teaching and service; >experience working in urban setting. > >. SCIENCE EDUCATION. Tenure Track, Assistant Professor. Primary >duties: teach undergrad and graduate courses in science education; >provide leadership with graduate students in science education; >conduct service and research in areas of specialization. >Qualifications: earned doctorate in Science Education or in >related field; experience teaching science at pre-college levels >and in teacher preparation programs; strong technology background >and proven record of integrating technology into science education >instruction; strong background in the sciences, and interest and >experience working in urban setting; record of scholarship and >evidence of quality teaching and service. > >. SOCIAL STUDIES EDUCATION. Tenure track, Assistant Professor. >Primary Duties: teach undergraduate and graduate courses in social >studies education; provide leadership with graduate students in >social studies education; conduct service and research in areas of >specialization. Qualifications: Earned doctorate in Social Studies >Education or in related field; experience teaching social studies >at pre-college levels and experience in teacher preparation >programs; strong content background, and evidence of integrating >technology into social studies education instruction; strong >interest and experience working in urban setting; record of >scholarship and evidence of quality teaching and service. > >. SOCIAL STUDIES EDUCATION. Tenure-track; Associate Professor. >Primary duties: teach undergraduate and graduate level courses in >social studies education; provide leadership with doctoral program >in social studies; conduct service and research in areas of >specialization; assist with bringing external funding to social >studies programs. Qualifications: Earned doctorate in Social >Studies Education or in related field; outstanding evidence of >scholarship and excellent achievement in service, teaching, and >research. Experience working in urban setting, experience with >diversity and technology issues in social studies education. > >Georgia State University is an urban institution, is an equal >opportunity institution, and equal opportunity/affirmative action >employer. > >Each of these five positions requires candidates to be actively >engaged in productive scholarship, be exemplary teachers, and be >committed to service in urban settings. > >Applications are being accepted immediately; Send letter of >application, official transcripts, vita, and three letters of >recommendation to: > >Ms Mimi Morgan, Dean's Office >College of Education, Georgia State University University Plaza, >Atlanta GA 30303-3083 > >Phone: 404-651-2580 >FAX: 404-651-2555 > >e-mail inquiries: edumrm@panther.gsu.edu > >Application review process will continue until positions are >filled. > >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----------------------------------- N'Deye Marie N'Jie Graduate Research Associate The Ohio State University Rm 260 Agricultural Engineering Bldg 590 Woody Hayes Drive Columbus, OH 43210 Fax: (614)292-9448 Phone: (614) 688-3445 (W) E-mail: njie.1@osu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:56:19 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: AFRICAN CELLULAR RESOURCE LAUNCHES LIVE CHATROOM FACILITY Message-ID: <9711032056.AA72692@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Gambia-L, I hope that some of you will find this interesting..... Regards, Moe S. Jallow ************************************************************************* AFRICAN CELLULAR RESOURCE WEB SITE LAUNCHES LIVE CHATROOM FACILITY -- Bridges communications gap for African and Global mobile phone and telecomms enthusiasts ************************************************************************ African Cellular Resource (ACR), the hugely popular South African-based Internet Web site dedicated to cellular and telecommunications in Africa, has launched a unique live Telecommunications and Cellular Chatroom facility on the site. ACR -- at Web address http://www.cellular.co.za -- has been a huge success since it's inception in April this year, with over 620,000 hits recorded. While the site is aimed primarily at cellular users and telecommunications in Africa, it's strong, complementary global cellular component has attracted recurrent visitors from around the world. The new ACR Chatroom facility now allows enthusiasts and professionals from around the world to easily communicate with one another in real time on specific cellular and telecommunications issues from one convenient, contextually-relevant location. The Web site has almost doubled in size since it's inception, with over 300 pages now accessible. It is updated daily to keep pace with the frenetic growth of the IT, cellular and telecommunications sectors. The ACR site is considered as one of the most comprehensive of it's kind in the world and certainly the most comprehensive site covering the African region. Visitors can view an extensive compilation of the specifications and pictures of the latest GSM cellphones available. Visitors to the ACR site can also access a listing of a number of secret cellphone functions designed to enhance their cellphone usage. With the new Chatroom facility, visitors wanting advice on functions and features can now call on a large body of surfers to the ACR site for their live input. The site also boasts a large "Mobile Office" section, a detailed and updated list of the world's cellular networks, including extensive details of the world's cellular standards and packet radio networks. A large hyper-linked Glossary section provides information on a wide range of cellular, computing and telecommunications issues. There is also an updated New Products and Services section, with a number world-first launches of GSM-related products. The African Cellular Resource can be found at http://www.cellular.co.za . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 16:08:39 -0500 From: "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: moe@smtp1.erols.com, jallow@smtp1.erols.com Subject: Re: Ethnicity and Identity Message-ID: <345E3D57.480@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Modou Jallow wrote: > > Brother Habib, > > I thank you for the educative response that you provided. I am also glad > that you didn't take it personal. My families back home have many "Narr" > friends and business associates and I wouldn't want to put that friendship > in jeopardy. > > I will wait and see if any other members will comment on the last question > of the message: > > > > How has these groups influenced the shaping of ideas and attitudes about > > > ourselves and how has their presence in the Gambia helped the counry both > > > economically and socially? > > Regards, > Moe S. Jallow > > ============================================================================ > mjallow@sct.edu mjallow@hayes.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moe You have truely shown that one can discuss openly without makeing it personal. No why should I take it otherwise. Because one person from an ethnic group (for example) gives a bad check does not mean all the members of that group are check bouncers. Daddy Njie also was very observant in bringing out another very important observation which is that tere is a distinct difference between the Original Lebanese settlers and the recent ones that came from other trouble countries like Sierra leone or Liberia for strictly financial greed and confort. Unlike the first settlers these JJC's do not know the relations built by the older folks and just bought their way into the Gambian businesses hurting even the previously settled ones by some of their corrupt practices.BUT Daddy Njie you have to remember it takes two to tango. If the local Gambians in the customs or in certain fields of business did not ask for bribary outright or reject the offers the new Lebanese jjc's the whole issue of corruption will not have gone as far as it did. No I definately take no offense and I am one of the victims of this type of corruption that drove me back to the USA after trying to do an honest project with the wells program within the Agriculture dept. Yes they are a close kin community but this sort of stereo typing has been on all sides in every country. It is up to us to try and change it. Slow but sure we will get there if we take it POSITIVELY. peace Habib fyi ps Mr Darboe was in the Washington metro area this weekend also. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:30:26 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: cute joke Message-ID: <9711032230.AB56070@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A doctor, a civil engineer, and a computer scientist were arguing about what was the oldest profession in the world. The doctor remarked "Well, in the Bible it says that God created Eve from a rib taken from Adam. This clearly required surgery so I can rightly claim that mine is the oldest profession in the world." The civil engineer interrupted and said "But even earlier in the book of Genesis, it states that God created the order of the heavens and the earth from out of the chaos. This was the first and certainly the most spectacular application of civil engineering. Therefore, fair doctor, you are wrong; mine is the oldest profession in the world." The computer scientist leaned back in his chair, smiled, and said confidently, "Ah, but who do you think created the chaos?" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Moe S. Jallow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:50:39 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: AFRICAN CELLULAR RESOURCE LAUNCHES LIVE CHATROOM FACILITY Message-ID: <9711031950.AA35532@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Gambia-L, Maybe this will interest some of you.... >************************************************************************** > AFRICAN CELLULAR RESOURCE WEB SITE LAUNCHES LIVE CHATROOM FACILITY > -- Bridges communications gap for African and Global mobile phone and > telecomms enthusiasts >************************************************************************** > > African Cellular Resource (ACR), the hugely popular South African-based > Internet Web site dedicated to cellular and telecommunications in Africa, > has launched a unique live Telecommunications and Cellular Chatroom > facility on the site. > > ACR -- at Web address http://www.cellular.co.za -- has been a huge success > since it's inception in April this year, with over 620,000 hits recorded. > While the site is aimed primarily at cellular users and telecommunications > in Africa, it's strong, complementary global cellular component has > attracted recurrent visitors from around the world. > > The new ACR Chatroom facility now allows enthusiasts and professionals from > around the world to easily communicate with one another in real time on > specific cellular and telecommunications issues from one convenient, > contextually-relevant location. > > The Web site has almost doubled in size since it's inception, with over 300 > pages now accessible. It is updated daily to keep pace with the frenetic > growth of the IT, cellular and telecommunications sectors. The ACR site is > considered as one of the most comprehensive of it's kind in the world and > certainly the most comprehensive site covering the African region. > > Visitors can view an extensive compilation of the specifications and > pictures of the latest GSM cellphones available. Visitors to the ACR site > can also access a listing of a number of secret cellphone functions > designed to enhance their cellphone usage. With the new Chatroom facility, > visitors wanting advice on functions and features can now call on a large > body of surfers to the ACR site for their live input. > > The site also boasts a large "Mobile Office" section, a detailed and > updated list of the world's cellular networks, including extensive details > of the world's cellular standards and packet radio networks. > > A large hyper-linked Glossary section provides information on a wide range > of cellular, computing and telecommunications issues. There is also an > updated New Products and Services section, with a number world-first > launches of GSM-related products. > > The African Cellular Resource can be found at http://www.cellular.co.za . ========================================================================== Regards, Moe S. Jallow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 23:11:44 -0500 From: "Pa-Mambuna O. Bojang" <paomar@iglou.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Darboe's meeting in Atlanta Message-ID: <345EA080.3852@iglou.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Moe, Thanks for the briefing. You could't have done it better. May Allah, the guidance, guide our leaders in their leadership towards what is best for the Gambia (amen). GOD BLESS!! Pa-Mambuna, Lexington ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:21:53 -0500 From: "hamza mohammed" <hamza@mail.wdn.com> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Aminata Y. Sallah - New Member Message-ID: <01bce8e1$d989bea0$240bfccd@wg.wdn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BCE8B7.F0B3B6A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BCE8B7.F0B3B6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everyone,=20 I am quite excited at the prospect of Gambians having a forum to discuss = matters that are relevant to us. I have been observing the "traffic" = so far and it has been interesting. I have just returned from a long = summer vacation in the Gambia and I am suffering from "homesickness", it = was therefore a pleasant surprise to find this Bantaba. - Amie ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BCE8B7.F0B3B6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hello Everyone, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I am quite excited at the prospect = of Gambians=20 having a forum to discuss matters that are relevant to us.   I = have=20 been observing the "traffic" so far and it has been=20 interesting.   I have just returned from a long summer = vacation in the=20 Gambia and I am suffering from "homesickness", it was = therefore a=20 pleasant surprise to find this Bantaba.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           =20 - Amie</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BCE8B7.F0B3B6A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:12:48 +0300 From: BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> To: "'gambia-l@u.washington.edu'" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: RE: Darboe's meeting in Atlanta Message-ID: <01BCE94F.39EDB860@ddci.qatar.net.qa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCE94F.39EDB860" ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCE94F.39EDB860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mr.Jallow! That was great! Thank you so much for a job well done. Regards Bassss! -----Original Message----- From: Modou Jallow [SMTP:mjallow@st6000.sct.edu] Sent: 03 NIE, 1418 09:56 a To: GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List Subject: Re: Darboe's meeting in Atlanta Pa-Mambuna, you wrote: > Can the Atlantans be kind and brief us about what was discussed at > Darboe's meeting last evening. Either Latjor or Moe does a real good job > on such matters, and I'm sure they would love to brief us about the > event. > GOD BLESS!! Hello Folks! I was away from my computer throughout the whole weekend and that's why I coudn't respond to Pa-Mambuna's request earlier. Yes, I attended Mr. Darboe's meeting, not as a UDP member or supporter, but because it was held only 5 minutes away from my home. I think I will do some members grave injustice if I do not share what transpired at the gathering. Before I get "flamed" on this, please, understand that I have no connection with either the UPD or the APRC, and the following information is only a recollection of Mr. Darboe's speech which I intend to share with those Gambia-Lers who are interested. Since I am also at work at present, I will try to make it as brief as possible. Thank you. Regards Moe S. Jallow =========================================================================== Despite the late arrival of most of the attendees, Mr. Darboe's meeting went very smoothly considering the short notice that was given. I would estimate that a little over a hundred people showed up despite the heavy rain that was poured intermittently outdoors. After the introduction and opening speech by Mr. Kebba Jallow of Atlanta, the audience was asked to watch a video that would give an idea of what chairman Darboe was going to talk about. Before his speech though, the chairman emphasized "this gathering is neither a UDP nor a political gathering". Rather, it was intended to show all concerned Gambians what has (and still is) transpired in the Gambia before and after the elections. The 20 minute video show provided some horrible insights about the alleged beatings of some UDP supporters during the campaign for election. The victims were interviewed in English (and some Mandinka) in which they told horror stories about how they were arrested (by the NIA), detained, starved and tortured with "host pipe" beatings, evidenced by the wounds and black markings on their backs and other body parts. In some cases, even some women were part of the brutalized victims, and that was enough to enlighten the audience about the brutality that took place during the election period. Chairman Darboe's opening statement went on to describe the Jammeh's regime as a "gang of thieves and bandits", whose presence in the Gambia is crippling the very society they seem to be representing. He reiterated that the main objective of the UDP party and its supporters was to "isolate" and "cripple" the APRC regime. Not only was the UDP party given insufficient time (only 2 weeks) before the elections, they were also subjected to dangerous and hostile attacks at their rallys and meetings according to him. He stated that he and his supporters were attacked, beaten, jailed and their mail and fax mail were tampered with while their telephones were tapped constantly. However, he boasted the party's overwhelming achievement of 35% of the registered voters despite the persecution they were subjected to. On cultural binding and tribal unity, Mr. Darboe accused president Jammeh and his followers of dividing the country and causing enemity, especially between the Jolas and Mandinkas, that the gambia was never known for before. On the issue of corruption and scandalous activities, he accused the Jammeh regime of unfaithfulness towards the Gambian people. He specifically questioned the Gambia-Taiwan connection and also where the governement was getting the funds that were being embezzled by the Jammeh regime. He also mentioned the alleged "drug" ship that was captured in the coast of Mauritania, whose contents was supposedly soy beans from Cambodia, and whose detination was addressed to none other than the ministry of Agriculture of the Gambia (He said that he can prove it too). He further accused the Jammeh regime of illegal activities in the form drug trafficking and trade that has overwhelmingly tainted the name of the Gambia and its people throughout the world. It has become quite a usual routine for Gambians to be detained at airports for no reason other than being suspects of drug trafficking activities. On the case of the Malian-Gambian Babanding Sissoho, Mr. Darboe stated that the Gambian people were at a loss as to how he obtained his diplomatic status (passport) and what he intended with the two helicopters he was to take back to the Gambia from the United States. The chairman stated that the Jammeh regime has refused to "withdraw" Mr. Sissoho's diplomatic passport and would not give any explanation to that effect. On the issue of extragant and fruitless expenditures chairman Darboe attacked the APRC regime for mistakenly calling "national development" the "erecting of buildings" and calling it development. He specifically mentioned the $1.5 million ARCH, the $10 million (1 story) airpport terminal and the $6.5 million farafenni hospital. In the case of the ARCH, he said that it has no developmental value, hence it was a waste of resources. Instead an Islamic school could have been erected there since portion of the ARCH is on the ground that is used as a prayer ground. In this way, the tradition of the place could have been continued. As far as the airport terminal is concerned, Mr. Darboe stated that the government didn't do the necessary statisctics and projections to find out a lower price for that project. He jokingly said that a $10 million dollar building even in New York City will look like a $10 million dollar storey building and not just a 1 story building covered with glass. The project, according to him, could have been completed with a mere $4 - $5 million dollars. He stated that not the two most important things in the country, Agriculture and health care has received the magnitude of $10 million dollars. Finally, on the Farafenni hospital, he said that Farafenni didn't need a $6.5 million dollar hospital when there are the MRC, Farafenni health center and Farafenni district hospital. And certainly, NOT when the RVH in Banjul is dying from the lack of medical personnel and supplies, and even the simplest medical precription is not available in the hospital and must be purchased in a pharmacy ouside the hospital. He also said that the Cuban doctors are NOT qualified doctors! Other extravagant issues, according to the chairman, involves how the president purchased 22 new vehicles and utility vehicles for about $255,000 dollars and gave it to the military and the NIA. President Jammeh told them the money for the purchase of the vehicles "is not from the world bank, is not from the IMF, but IT IS FROM MY BANK". Mr. Darbo said that the money may have come from kickbacks, the treasury and/or foreign donations that the president just decided to personalize. The chairman further accused president Jammeh of using Gambia's money to hire private airplanes when travelling abroad. For the 3 day OAU summit in Zimbabwe earlier this year, for example, the president paid a total of 720,000 (I'm not sure if this dalasis or US dollars) to charter a private plane. Mr. Darboe said that during the Jawara days, it was not uncommon for president Jawara to call Abdou Diouf or other African leaders to try to "hitch a flight" with them. He said "that kind of money could have been used by some women in Kantora and their gardens." With his last words, the chairman said "It has become common for many Gambians to have ONLY 1 meal a day", and that "a country is bound to go bankrupt with these kinds of extravagancy and corruption". Please, note that these are just the main points. The meeting lasted for approximately 3 hours and the audience was allocated 30 minutes to ask questions. Contrary to president Jawara's visit, Mr. Darboe was well received and his address was heard without interruptions of the "booing and name-calling" kind. Thank you for reading. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 19:26:18 +0300 From: BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> To: "'Gambia-l@u.washington.edu'" <Gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: RE: This Madness In Africa [Editorial] Message-ID: <01BCE957.92C76960@ddci.qatar.net.qa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: Latir Downes-Thomas [SMTP:latir@earthlink.net] Sent: 04 NIE, 1418 01:39 O To: Bush List Subject: This Madness In Africa [Editorial] This Madness In Africa [Editorial] Accra (Ghanaian Independent, October 31, 1997) - So Dennis Sassou=20 Whose leg is France pulling=20 in supporting Nguesso after his most undemocratic entry into=20 Brazzaville? [BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH] =20 France is not trying to pull anybody's legs.France is a country that = knows where its national interest lies.If the Editor of Ghana's = INDEPENDENT thinks that France's foreign policy in Africa is conducted = with any morality on its mind beyond France's national interest ,then = maybe this Editor should wake up! And why blame France anyway? As long = as we have demented black leaders who would do anything and accept = anything just to get hold of power, some powerful foreigners will always = be willing to support them so that during their reign our natural = resources could be used to subsidize their high standards of living back = home.In Western Political Culture,you must uphold the highest possible = moral standards when dealing with the affairs of your own people,the = people that live within the national territory for which you work;as for = the Strangers,you have to be selective in your dealings with them:if = being moral serves your national interest,you get moral,but otherwise = you will have to do anything to serve the interest of your people and = nation,overtly or covertly,and if that means black people killing each = other like dogs in the streets of BrazzaVille, so be it! Regards Bassss! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:36:29 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: The STATISTICS corner (fwd) Message-ID: <9711041736.AA71646@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ***Estimates for January 1, 1989*** Metropolitan areas Population public safety Murders per 100,000 people (manslaughter included) ================== ========== ======================== 1. Cape Town, South Africa 2.425.000 64.7 2. Cairo, Egypt 11.000.000 56.4 3. Alexandria, Egypt 3.640.000 49.3 4. Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 10.975.000 36.6 5. Manila, Philippines 9.200.000 30.5 6. Mexico City, Mexico 19.400.000 27.6 7. Sao Paulo, Brazil 17.200.000 26.0 8. Tijuana, Mexico 700.000 24.4 9. Casablanca, Morocco 2.900.000 23.6 10. Bogota, Colombia 4.640.000 21.1 11. Maimi-Ft. Lauderdale, USA 3.325.000 20.8 12. Detroit, USA 4.400.000 20.2 13. Johannesburg, South Africa 4.600.000 19.8 14. Detroit-Windsor, USA & Canada 4.550.000 19.2 15. Recife, Brazil 2.875.000 19.0 16. Dallas-Ft. Worth, USA 3.625.000 18.5 17. Boston, USA 4.085.000 17.8 18. Belo Horizonte, Brazil 3.340.000 16.1 19. Washington, D.C., USA 3.550.000 14.8 20. San Diego-Tijuana, USA & Mexico 2.720.000 13.6 21. Atlanta, USA 2.500.000 13.1 22. New York, USA 17.400.000 12.8 ---------------- Source: CITIES - Life in the world's 100 largest metropolitan areas, Department of Publications, Statistical appendix, Population crisis Committee, 1120 19th Street, N.W. Suite 550, Washington, D.C. 20036-3605, USA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:12:36 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Amnesty Secretary General of S/Leone in hiding Message-ID: <9711041812.AA66916@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Amnesty International Gen. Secretary in Hiding The General Secretary of Amnesty International in Sierra Leone, Mr. Isaac Lappia, is currently in hiding. This is a result of an attack by soldiers on his residence at 62 Regent Road, Lumley last Saturday. The house was completely looted. Fortunately for Mr. Lappia, he was not at home when the attack took place. His brothers, Moses and Peter, who were found in the house were, however, not so lucky. They were severely beaten by the soldiers and taken to an unknown destination. It is believed the reason for the attack on Mr. Lappia's residence is the fact that the AFRC has been very unhappy about the reports he is sending out about human rights violations. ------------------ Courtesy SL Web ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:20:11 -0500 (EST) From: "N'Deye Marie N'Jie" <njie.1@osu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu, papaf@iastate.edu, jacka@einstein.franklin.edu Cc: munyaradzi.1@osu.edu Subject: ** Job opportunity in South Africa *** (fwd) Message-ID: <2.2.16.19971104151840.3017e5c0@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >Forwarded message: >>From kwacieni@fas.harvard.edu Sun Nov 2 15:56:50 1997 >Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:56:42 -0500 (EST) >From: Kaniaru Wacieni <kwacieni@fas.harvard.edu> >To: cmadu@lynx.dac.neu.edu >cc: kwacieni@fas.harvard.edu, lcasanova@brynmawr.edu, > africans-list@fas.harvard.edu, africans@mit.edu >Subject: ** Job opportunity in South Africa *** >Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.971102152009.19937B-100000@login4.fas.harvard.edu> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > 2 November, 1997 >Dear Friends: > I am writing to inform you of a very exciting job opportunity in >my office in South Africa. I am working for Bain & Company South Africa >in Johannesburg and am currently identifying interested and motivated >indidividuals to interview for a permanent position. > My name is Taziona Chaponda, from Malawi. I went to high school >at Waterford Kamhlaba in Swaziland and then proceeded to Harvard >Universtiy where I did a B.A. in economics. On graduation in June 1997, I >received a very attractive offer to work with Bain & Company as an >Associate Consultant in their Johannesburg office. I gladly accepted the >offer and have been working there for just over a month as I spent the >summer vacation in Boston. I have been in Boston over the past >two weeks attending a company world-wide training program at Cape Cod and >thought that I should use this opportunity to inform people of our >recruiting efforts. > Bain & Company is a prestigous global management consulting firm >with its headquarters in Boston and many offices around the world >including Europe, Asia, Latin America, and Africa. In South Africa, we >work as business consultants both for the public and private sectors. The >nature of our work is very challenging but also very rewarding - both in >terms of the extensive skills one learns and also financially. > If you are interested in learning more about Bain & Company South >Africa or in applying for a position either as an Associate Consulant (for >candidates with a first degree) or as a Consultant (for candidates with an >MBA or a comparable advanced degree) please feel free to drop me a line >at taziona.chaponda@bain.com or fax your resume, a transcript, and a >cover letter to 27-11-880 3326. Be sure that your fax cover page clearly >indicates my name so that your resume receives the attention it deserves. >Also be certain to include your email address as this will be the primary >means of communication in the early stages. > >I hope you will consider Bain & Company South Africa as an option and send >me your resume, latest transcript, and a cover letter. > > Kind Regards, > > Taziona G. Chaponda > Associate Consultant > Bain & Company South Africa, Inc. > >PS: You may also mail your resume and transcript to: > Taziona Chaponda > Dunkeld Gardens > 17 Kent Road, Dunkeld West > Johannesburg 2196 > SOUTH AFRICA > > (tel. 27-83- 326 9655 ) > > > > ----------------------------------- N'Deye Marie N'Jie Graduate Research Associate The Ohio State University Rm 260 Agricultural Engineering Bldg 590 Woody Hayes Drive Columbus, OH 43210 Fax: (614)292-9448 Phone: (614) 688-3445 (W) E-mail: njie.1@osu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:58:27 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Ndow <gndow@spelman.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: on the move Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971104175300.3233A-100000@acc5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings: I wish to inform the list of my relocating to the D.C. area. As such I will be temporarily unsubscribing from the list. I hope to rejoin the bantaba in the near future. To those who had directed inquiries to me and did not receive a response, please accept my apologies. Sarian, can you please remove me from the Bush list also. In peace, LatJor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 06:34:31 +0300 From: "Bassirou Dodou Drammeh" <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: on the move Message-ID: <01bce8d2$8fcd3da0$a12185c2@q-tel.qatar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LatJor! All the best in your new location,but we hope and expect to hear from you as soon as are settled in DC. Regards Basss! -----Original Message----- From: Gabriel Ndow <gndow@spelman.edu> To: GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Date: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 7:55 AM Subject: on the move >Greetings: >I wish to inform the list of my relocating to the D.C. area. As >such I will be temporarily unsubscribing from the list. I hope >to rejoin the bantaba in the near future. To those who had >directed inquiries to me and did not receive a response, please >accept my apologies. > >Sarian, can you please remove me from the Bush list also. > >In peace, >LatJor > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 15:34:11 +0000 From: Abdou O Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Tribute to KEEKOTOO MAANE (Fwd.) Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971105153411.006cff98@golf.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi G-lers! Here is something a brother, Baaba Silla, gave me the permission to share with list members. I really like the name spelling part, so I will give it a try myself:- Abdu Ujimaay Jibba. BTW, Try it yourself, it may be fun or even adoptive. ----------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------- FWD: WEEP NOT FOR KEEKOTOO BUN ABDU SALAAM MAANE. By Baaba Silla, Norway. Like all deaths the people that you leave behind are left with a mix of emotions ranging from sadness to a profound sense of grief and loss. The demise of Kotoo-Kee was yet another episode in life's unending dramas. Who was this shy unassuming character? A man of few words, a boy of the old school, who harboured a keen sense of right and wrong, a devout muslim, a product of Armitage and a family-centred man. It is difficult to judge a person for what he has done, though like most African intellectuals it will suffice to say that he was caught-up with life and had difficulty breaking out to the spriral of sorting out the extended family needs. Consequently the immediate demands of living override the demands of the pen. During my long standing association with him spanning over thirty years(first as his pupil and then as his colleague at Armitage and Crab Island respectively), I have never doubted his creative abilities, sharpness of wit and intellectual powess. Regrettably, Kotoo Kee has not left much by way of literary work to enable critics and supporters to assess his world outlook and more especially, his impact on the Gambian body politic. I have had the good fortune to witness two major interventions that Kee made in the past two decades and these are:- a) Kumba Banjul/Samba Banjul play: Here, his voice as an author was unequivocal in joining Samba's society in their denunciation of his violation of tradition and for not living up to the expectations of his society. Samba had to make amends to his people by, renouncing all the values and trappings of the elite that he had newly acquired. Kee did not hesitate therefore to reward the young hero,a deserving bride, Kumba, following his acquiescence. Kee could be understood only if we situate our mind-set against the backdrop of the pre-independence and the immediate aftermath of the African countries gaining constitutional status. The African intelligentsia was trying to rediscover themselves. The main intellectual impulse derived from Casley Hayford, Edward Francis Small, Seghore, Ceasaire and Fanon to name but a few. Though his other influences are legion, the dominant and most fashionable philosophy of the day was negritude. Despite their potency of these ideas, at the time and the probability that they may have impinged on his subconscious, we must hand it on to Kee for his strong sense of his own individual. While conceding that Kee had an innate tendency towards reveering good old-fashion values of thrift religious spirituality,respect and a meticulous sense for detail, I hasten to add that Kee had no difficulty reconciling this potpourri of ideas, beliefs and practices. The Play therefore offers an innocuous critique of the life of the emerging petty-bourgeoisie in post colonial Africa. Kee was a man of his times. b) Following on from the trail blazed by Rev. J. C. Faye and Master Silla(h) in developing a national autography for gambian languages, Kee insisted upon spelling our names as we say and hear them. This is of course in direct contravention to the ways that approximated to anglo-saxon auditory perceptions of African phonology. Nonetheless, we have ourselves imbibed these ways and I dear say some of us resent any changes to the old order. Try these: - Why do we spell LOWE with the redundant (WE)? - BAKAW with A U instead of A W. - YAYA JAMME(H) instead of YAYAA JAMME. - ALHAGY NJIE BIRI instead of ALAAJI NJAAY BIIRI? - DALASI does not have a plural in Mandika. Why do we keep adding (S) to indicate that it is in plural form? Is it not enough to say 2 dalasi? Think about your own names and see if you will come up with something new. For all its worth Keekotoo et. al. have created a paradigm shift. You may applaud him or condemn him but the fact remains that he has left us with some food thought. Is this yet another fading voice to be washed away by the tide? I sincerely hope not. In my humble estimation, Kee has contributed immensely to education in The Gambia. And credit must be given where it is due. The lessons we learn from his death is pointedly, our own mortality and the fragility of life. Weep not for Kee, the challenge is to build on his experience and vision. His legacy lives on. Jaraama Kee. ----------------------------E---N---D----------------------------------------- THANKS FOR READING THROUGH! Abdu Ujimaay Jibba ( :-) ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:01:31 -0500 (EST) From: Raye Sosseh <gt8065b@prism.gatech.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Tribute to KEEKOTOO MAANE (Fwd.) Message-ID: <199711051501.KAA20888@acmez.gatech.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List Members, The tribute to Mr. Kekoto Maane was rather refreshing.... It is rather jarring that the Gambia was and is in the state it is because people like Mr. Maane were never given the chance to make it better........ Raye ************************************************************** * Raye Sosseh * * George Woodruff School of Mechanical Engineering * * Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 * * email: gt8065b@prism.gatech.edu * * * * Quote * * ----- * * "If at first you succeed, don't take any more stupid * * chances. * * * * Unknown * ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:25:21 -0500 (EST) From: Ebrima Sall <ebrima.sall@yale.edu> To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Reply to "Give a book" (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.94.971105111000.25298B-100000@morpheus.cis.yale.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Folks, I was out of town for the past ten days or so. I had to go back to Dakar for an important staff meeting. Time to scan through the 322 messages I found waiting for me, read some, and I will respond to some of them. Meanwhile, here is a private message I got from a friend, comenting on the idea of a Give A Book campaign. As you will see, he is actually currently involved in something similar. And he has given me permission to forward the message below to Gambia-l. His name is Aliou Jobe. Could the list managers subscribe Aliou to Gambia-l? Here is his address: Tokunor@worldnet.att.net Thanks a lot! Cheers, Ebrima Sall. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:29:49 -0700 From: Alieu Jobe <Tokunor@worldnet.att.net> To: ebrima.sall@yale.edu Subject: Reply to "Give a book" Hi Ebou: Sorry for the late reply. I come home very late after soccer games & supervising the students on their "Homecoming rally". I think that I did talk to u b4 about "Project Gambia" which I created last year in the school I teach. The objective is helping Gambian schools & students in The Gambia with school materials. This is a book drive including other school supplies. I've sent in august this year 137 boxes of books(3000+ on all subjects for all levels), pens, pencils, notebooks, chalk, paper, binders, etc. These materials have arrived & are normally undergoing distribution. I give talks everywhere plus schools around & I organized walk-a-thon. I raised over $2000 which helped me send all the materials I collected. I'II tell u more on the "Project" which is a continous one. Your idea is good .One thing I got to say to u is to go ahead & whoever helps is OK. NEVER DEPEND ON ANYONE or u'll risk to be let down. I'll reply in detail later... Your Bro., Cliff (Aliou Jobe). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:33:31 -0500 (EST) From: Ebrima Sall <ebrima.sall@yale.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: FELLOWSHIPS FOR THE STUDY OF INTERNATIONAL MIGRATION TO THE UNITED STATES (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.94.971105113225.25298C-100000@morpheus.cis.yale.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:27:00 -0500 (EST) From: Lisa M Aubrey <aubrey@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> To: Ebrima Sall <ebrima.sall@yale.edu>, Jaygbay@aol.com Subject: FELLOWSHIPS FOR THE STUDY OF INTERNATIONAL MIGRATION TO THE UNITED STATES (fwd) Know anyone interested in these fellowhips? lisa ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:02:51 -0600 (CST) From: pinderhughes dianne m <dpinderh@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> To: National Con of Black Political Scientists <ncobps@ncat.edu> Cc: Ethnicity Race <race-pol@acadcomp.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: FELLOWSHIPS FOR THE STUDY OF INTERNATIONAL MIGRATION TO THE UNITED STATES (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:16:46 -0500 From: Yvette M. Huet-Hudson <YMHUET@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU> To: FFF@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU Subject: FELLOWSHIPS FOR THE STUDY OF INTERNATIONAL MIGRATION TO THE UNITED STATES > Christian M. Fuersich > International Migration Program > Social Science Research Council > 810 Seventh Ave. 31st floor > New York, NY 10019 > telephone: 212-377-2700, ext. 604 > fax: 212-377-2727 > email: fuersich@ssrc.org. > > _______________________________________________________________ > 1998-99 FELLOWSHIPS FOR THE STUDY OF INTERNATIONAL MIGRATION > TO THE UNITED STATES > The Program on International Migration of the Social Science Research > Council announces fellowship competitions for the study of immigration > to the United States. With funds from the Andrew W. Mellon > Foundation, the program offers fellowships for dissertation and > postdoctoral research and for participation in a minority summer > dissertation workshop. > The goal of the International Migration Program is to foster > innovative research that will advance theoretical understandings of > the origins of immigration to the United States, the processes of > migration and settlement, and the outcomes for both immigrants and > native-born Americans. Proposals to research one or more of the > following themes are encouraged, although the research need not be > limited to the topics outlined: > 1 International migration: causes, processes, and types. What are > the factors and processes that cause international migration and > determine the types of immigrants and refugees who come to the United > States? By what processes do migrants arrive in the United States and > how do these processes affect who migrates and how they adapt to > living in a new society? What are the origins and impacts of ongoing > transnational ties that link migrants to both their home and host > societies. > 2 Economic contexts, processes, and transformations. What are the > different modes by which immigrants integrate into the U.S. economy > and what factors shape these processes? How does the economic > integration of immigrants affect native-born Americans and existing > economic structures and processes? How and why are immigrants' > economic activities and outcomes similar to or different from those of > native-born Americans? > 3 Sociocultural contexts, processes, and transformations. How does > migration alter gender, family, community, and other social groupings > and identities of both immigrants and native-born Americans? What > impacts do immigrants and native-born Americans have upon one > another's racial, ethnic, and class identities and how do they affect > intergroup relations? How do answers to these questions change when > considering the children of immigrants? > 4 Political contexts, processes, and transformations. How do the > different legal, cultural, social, and economic backgrounds of > immigrants affect their differing rates of naturalization and > political participation? How does migration alter immigrants' and > native-born Americans' notions of nationality, citizenship, political > responsibility and participation in political processes? What impact > do immigrants have on the identities, alliances, and activities of > native-born American political constituencies? > Applicants must make explicit in their proposals the theoretical > contributions that their research can make in interpreting U.S. > immigration. Applicants are strongly encouraged to develop the > theoretical aspects of their research by adopting comparative > international and/or historical perspectives that consider the > relevant experiences of other countries and time periods. Applicants > are also encouraged to adopt cross-disciplinary theoretical and > methodological approaches to research and analysis. > DISSERTATION FELLOWSHIPS > Approximately seven one-year fellowships will be awarded in to support > full-time doctoral dissertation research. The award will be a stipend > of $12,000 and up to $3,000 in research expenses. Applicants who do > not expect to finish their research by the end of the one-year > fellowship must explain how they plan to complete the portion of their > research that is not funded. Applicants must be U.S. citizens, > permanent residents, or international students at U.S. institutions, > who are matriculated in social science doctoral programs (including > history). Applicants must have their proposals approved by their > dissertation committees and must complete all course work and exams > before the fellowships begin. The funded research project must begin > within four months of the award. > POSTDOCTORAL FELLOWSHIPS > Approximately five one-year fellowships will be awarded to individual > scholars. Fellowships will be available only to scholars who have > earned their Ph.D within the seven years prior to June 1, 1998. The > maximum amount to be awarded is $20,000. Funds can be used for > research expenses and salary, and may be spent over a period of 12 > months, with the expectation that awardees will engage in full-time > research for at least six of those months. Applicants who do not > intend to finish their research by the end of the one-year fellowship > must explain how they plan to complete the portion of their research > that is not funded. Applicants are encouraged to seek supplemental > funds from other sources to complete their budgets, but the SSRC > reserves the right to reduce its award should the total funds raised > exceed the project's budget. The research proposed should result in > publication. Applicants must hold a Ph.D. or its equivalent in one of > the social sciences (including history) or in an allied professional > field before June 1, 1998. The funded research project should begin > within four months of the award. Applicants must be U.S. citizens or > permanent residents, or international scholars who are affiliated with > a U.S. academic or research institution during the time of the award. > MINORITY SUMMER > DISSERTATION WORKSHOP > The International Migration Program will offer an intensive training > to students of minority backgrounds in developing dissertation and > funding proposals. The training for ten to fifteen students will > take place in a seminar setting with leading scholars in the field. > The workshop will meet in two sessions (two weeks and one week) during > the summer of 1998 on a university campus. Participants will work on > refining research topics, designing research methods, and preparing > research and funding proposals. The International Migration Program > will pay transportation, room and board, and other participation > costs, as well as a stipend for workshop participants. To be > eligible, applicants must be U.S. citizens or permanent residents who > are of African, Latino, Asian, Pacific Island, or Native American > ancestry. Applicants must be graduate students who are matriculated > in doctoral programs in the social sciences (including history), have > taken course work related to international migration, have completed > their first year of graduate study, and have developed a preliminary > research focus for their dissertations. > > APPLICATION RECEIPT DEADLINE > January 9, 1998 (4:30 p.m.) > ANNOUNCEMENT OF AWARDS > End of April 1998 > For further information & application materials, please contact: > International Migration Program > Social Science Research Council > 810 Seventh Avenue > New York NY 10019 USA > 212 377-2700 ext. 604 telephone > 212 377-2727 fax > migration@ssrc.org email > http://www.ssrc.org web > The Program especially encourages applications from members of > minority racial, ethnic, and nationality groups, and women. > In the administration of its programs, the Social Science Research > Council does not discriminate on the basis of age, color, creed, > disability, marital status, national origin, sexual orientation, race, > gender, or any other characteristic protected by applicable laws. > Yvette M. Huet-Hudson, Ph.D. Associate Professor University of North Carolina at Charlotte Dept. Biology 9201 University City Blvd. Charlotte, NC 28223 Office: 704-547-2880 Fax: 704-547-3128 ****Please note new e-mail address: ymhuet@email.uncc.edu**** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:37:05 +0300 From: "BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH" <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Tribute to KEEKOTOO MAANE (Fwd.) Message-ID: <01bcea09$0db98ac0$bb2385c2@kolls567> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks Mr.Gibba for the Fwd.And keep up the good work down there! Regards Basss! -----Original Message----- From: Abdou O Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> To: GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Date: 05/ÑÌÈ/1418 11:35 ã Subject: Tribute to KEEKOTOO MAANE (Fwd.) >Hi G-lers! > >Here is something a brother, Baaba Silla, gave me the permission to share >with list members. I really like the name spelling part, so I will give it a >try myself:- > >Abdu Ujimaay Jibba. > >BTW, Try it yourself, it may be fun or even adoptive. >----------------------------------------------------- >----------------------------------------------------- > >FWD: WEEP NOT FOR KEEKOTOO BUN ABDU SALAAM MAANE. By Baaba Silla, Norway. > >Like all deaths the people that you leave behind are left with a mix of >emotions ranging from sadness to a profound sense of grief and loss. The >demise of Kotoo-Kee was yet another episode in life's unending dramas. Who >was this shy unassuming character? > >A man of few words, a boy of the old school, who harboured a keen sense of >right and wrong, a devout muslim, a product of Armitage and a family-centred >man. > >It is difficult to judge a person for what he has done, though like most >African intellectuals it will suffice to say that he was caught-up with life >and had difficulty breaking out to the spriral of sorting out the extended >family needs. Consequently the immediate demands of living override the >demands of the pen. > >During my long standing association with him spanning over thirty >years(first as his pupil and then as his colleague at Armitage and Crab >Island respectively), I have never doubted his creative abilities, sharpness >of wit and intellectual powess. Regrettably, Kotoo Kee has not left much by >way of literary work to enable critics and supporters to assess his world >outlook and more especially, his impact on the Gambian body politic. > >I have had the good fortune to witness two major interventions that Kee made >in the past two decades and these are:- > >a) Kumba Banjul/Samba Banjul play: >Here, his voice as an author was unequivocal in joining Samba's society in >their denunciation of his violation of tradition and for not living up to >the expectations of his society. > >Samba had to make amends to his people by, renouncing all the values and >trappings of the elite that he had newly acquired. Kee did not hesitate >therefore to reward the young hero,a deserving bride, Kumba, following his >acquiescence. > >Kee could be understood only if we situate our mind-set against the backdrop >of the pre-independence and the immediate aftermath of the African countries >gaining constitutional status. The African intelligentsia was trying to >rediscover themselves. The main intellectual impulse derived from Casley >Hayford, Edward Francis Small, Seghore, Ceasaire and Fanon to name but a >few. Though his other influences are legion, the dominant and most >fashionable philosophy of the day was negritude. > >Despite their potency of these ideas, at the time and the probability that >they may have impinged on his subconscious, we must hand it on to Kee for >his strong sense of his own individual. > >While conceding that Kee had an innate tendency towards reveering good >old-fashion values of thrift religious spirituality,respect and a meticulous >sense for detail, I hasten to add that Kee had no difficulty reconciling >this potpourri of ideas, beliefs and practices. > >The Play therefore offers an innocuous critique of the life of the emerging >petty-bourgeoisie in post colonial Africa. Kee was a man of his times. > >b) Following on from the trail blazed by Rev. J. C. Faye and Master Silla(h) >in developing a national autography for gambian languages, Kee insisted upon >spelling our names as we say and hear them. This is of course in direct >contravention to the ways that approximated to anglo-saxon auditory >perceptions of African phonology. Nonetheless, we have ourselves imbibed >these ways and I dear say some of us resent any changes to the old order. > >Try these: >- Why do we spell LOWE with the redundant (WE)? >- BAKAW with A U instead of A W. >- YAYA JAMME(H) instead of YAYAA JAMME. >- ALHAGY NJIE BIRI instead of ALAAJI NJAAY BIIRI? >- DALASI does not have a plural in Mandika. Why do we keep adding (S) to >indicate that it is in plural form? Is it not enough to say 2 dalasi? >Think about your own names and see if you will come up with something new. > >For all its worth Keekotoo et. al. have created a paradigm shift. You may >applaud him or condemn him but the fact remains that he has left us with >some food thought. Is this yet another fading voice to be washed away by the >tide? I sincerely hope not. > >In my humble estimation, Kee has contributed immensely to education in The >Gambia. And credit must be given where it is due. The lessons we learn from >his death is pointedly, our own mortality and the fragility of life. Weep >not for Kee, the challenge is to build on his experience and vision. His >legacy lives on. > >Jaraama Kee. > >----------------------------E---N---D-------------------------------------- --- > >THANKS FOR READING THROUGH! > >Abdu Ujimaay Jibba ( :-) ) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:54:50 +0300 From: "BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH" <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Reply to "Give a book" (fwd) Message-ID: <01bcea0b$8818d580$bb2385c2@kolls567> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Now that we have got someone on the list who has practical experience of actually sending books and distributing them in the Gambia,maybe the Education Committe (those of them in the U.S.) should start actually contacting Instituitions that may be willing to donate books,stationeries and used computers.What each and everyone of us must remember is that unless someone decides to sacrifice some of his/her time,energy and even money,none of the fantastic ideas we have discussed here will ever have the chance of being translated into something that would make a difference in the Gambia. And keep up the good work down there! Regards Bassss! -----Original Message----- From: Ebrima Sall <ebrima.sall@yale.edu> To: GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Date: 06/ÑÌÈ/1418 01:22 Õ Subject: Reply to "Give a book" (fwd) >Hi Folks, > >I was out of town for the past ten days or so. I had to go >back to Dakar for an important staff meeting. Time to scan through the 322 >messages I found waiting for me, read some, and I will respond to some of >them. > >Meanwhile, here is a private message I got from a friend, comenting on >the idea of a Give A Book campaign. As you will see, he is actually >currently involved in something similar. And he has given me permission to >forward the message below to Gambia-l. > >His name is Aliou Jobe. > >Could the list managers subscribe Aliou to Gambia-l? > >Here is his address: Tokunor@worldnet.att.net > >Thanks a lot! > >Cheers, > >Ebrima Sall. > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:29:49 -0700 >From: Alieu Jobe <Tokunor@worldnet.att.net> >To: ebrima.sall@yale.edu >Subject: Reply to "Give a book" > >Hi Ebou: >Sorry for the late reply. I come home very late after soccer games & >supervising the students on their "Homecoming rally". >I think that I did talk to u b4 about "Project Gambia" which I created >last year in the school I teach. The objective is helping Gambian schools >& students in The Gambia with school materials. >This is a book drive including other school supplies. I've sent in august >this year 137 boxes of books(3000+ on all subjects for all levels), pens, >pencils, notebooks, chalk, paper, binders, etc. These materials have >arrived & are normally undergoing distribution. I give talks everywhere >plus schools around & I organized walk-a-thon. I raised over $2000 which >helped me send all the materials I collected. I'II tell u more on the >"Project" which is a continous one. >Your idea is good .One thing I got to say to u is to go ahead & whoever >helps is OK. NEVER DEPEND ON ANYONE or u'll risk to be let down. >I'll reply in detail later... >Your Bro., >Cliff >(Aliou Jobe). > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:55:43 -0500 From: "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: on the move Message-ID: <3460C12F.559B@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bassirou Dodou Drammeh wrote: > > LatJor! > All the best in your new location,but we hope and expect to > hear from you as soon as are settled in DC. > > Regards Basss! > -----Original Message----- > From: Gabriel Ndow <gndow@spelman.edu> > To: GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List > <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > Date: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 7:55 AM > Subject: on the move > > >Greetings: > >I wish to inform the list of my relocating to the D.C. area. As > >such I will be temporarily unsubscribing from the list. I hope > >to rejoin the bantaba in the near future. To those who had > >directed inquiries to me and did not receive a response, please > >accept my apologies. > > > >Sarian, can you please remove me from the Bush list also. > > > >In peace, > >LatJor > > > > LatJor Please contact me when you get to DC Habib hghanim@erols.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 14:12:28 -0500 From: "H. Jared" <globexinc@erols.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: on the move Message-ID: <3460C51C.401@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gabriel Ndow wrote: > > Greetings: > I wish to inform the list of my relocating to the D.C. area. As > such I will be temporarily unsubscribing from the list. I hope > to rejoin the bantaba in the near future. To those who had > directed inquiries to me and did not receive a response, please > accept my apologies. > > Sarian, can you please remove me from the Bush list also. > > In peace, > LatJor Mr Ndow pls call me when you come to DC Habib ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 23:21:05 -0800 From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <m.gassama@swipnet.se> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Please add a friend Message-ID: <34616FE1.6AC5@swipnet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi List Managers! Please add Alagie Babou Njie to the list. His e-mail address is: babounjie@hotmail.com. Thanks. Buharry. ------------------------------ [/quote]   Check here to include your profile signature.